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gopiscrap

(23,761 posts)
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 12:29 PM Sep 2016

I call bullshit

all the right wing yackers are saying this debate didn't move anyone. However I say it did. What is your opinion?


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No change whatsoever
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CBGLuthier

(12,723 posts)
3. I doubt at this point anyone is changing their minds. I would hate to think of how fucking stupid
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 12:32 PM
Sep 2016

you would have to be not to have made up your mind by now. I did hear some woman on a call-in show say she watched so she could choose between Trump and Gary. Her words exactly, Gary. I hate it when people call politicians by their first name like they are actually their friends.

I watched ten minutes of this shit fest and my opinion did not change one bit. It is a suckfest and least suck wins.

 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
5. i had four young college students (male, white) who were pro-trump and are now voting for hillary.
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 12:34 PM
Sep 2016

so my anecdotal experience says differently.

Mz Pip

(27,451 posts)
7. It hurt with undecideds
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 12:43 PM
Sep 2016

They are fighting over the crumbs now. I doubt any solid Trump supporters had their minds changed.

However, people on the fence or people whose support for Trump was fairly soft might have been swayed. I expect a modest bounce for Hillary maybe moving her outside the margin of error.

SunSeeker

(51,574 posts)
8. Even if that were true, which it is not, Trump still lost.
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 12:44 PM
Sep 2016

Trump is behind. He needs to gain voters, not merely keep what he has.

Exilednight

(9,359 posts)
9. It doesn't change anything. People who watch debates already
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 12:58 PM
Sep 2016

Have formed opinions.

Social scientists have been studying this for decades, and the results are always the same: debates don't move polls.

 

Stubborn

(116 posts)
10. I don't think this debate will change things much, but..
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 01:13 PM
Sep 2016

Debates definitively move polls.

Romney got a very large bump after the first debate in 2012.

http://www2.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/general_election_romney_vs_obama-1171.html

He went from being down by 4.5 on Sep. 29th to being up by 0.7 on October 9th. The first debate was on October 3rd.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
12. I don't think it's going to change the minds of his hard-core base and the
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 01:49 PM
Sep 2016

"republican no matter what" type of voter, but I do think it had an effect on many undecideds and independents. I am on a business trip and people are behaving themselves and not getting too political (my sense is that most of them lean republican - not rabid - but still solidly republican) but a lot of them, especially the women have been saying "I don't really care for Hillary, but I can't stand Trump, so I am voting AGAINST him more than I am voting for her". Or, "It's the lesser of two evils and that would be Hillary".

I'm pleasantly surprised that these people hate him so much. I really didn't expect it.

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