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Never in my fugging life have I heard anyone in a debate (Original Post) malaise Sep 2016 OP
I know Malaise Penn Voter Sep 2016 #1
He even blamed Hillary for using his words in ads malaise Sep 2016 #3
Thank You! Penn Voter Sep 2016 #16
His mike was lower than hers and it was crackling- he is pathetic malaise Sep 2016 #40
Here's what I don't understand - if he thinks he won, why is he whining? Siwsan Sep 2016 #2
He knows he lost malaise Sep 2016 #4
I know he KNOWS he lost, but that doesn't mean he doesn't still think, on some level, that he WON Siwsan Sep 2016 #9
The madness of malaise Sep 2016 #10
Porphyria. Cracklin Charlie Sep 2016 #28
Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah malaise Sep 2016 #36
I'm sorry, did you say PoorFearia ? jtuck004 Sep 2016 #47
Well, he thinks, all sensible people out there appreciated his superior intelligence Warpy Sep 2016 #17
I know someone like Trump. They get away with things because NOBODY wants to deal with them Siwsan Sep 2016 #18
I think most of us have met at least one raging narcissist Warpy Sep 2016 #20
I took an early retirement to get away from that particular nightmare Siwsan Sep 2016 #22
He's lying madokie Sep 2016 #5
The question Madokie is when is he not malaise Sep 2016 #7
I have to admit I've not paid much attention to him before these last 7 years or so madokie Sep 2016 #14
Same here malaise Sep 2016 #37
"...he's one WEIRD ass dude" ailsagirl Sep 2016 #44
Exactly!!! "... he's one WEIRD ass dude." He's really freaky. Now, 100 million people here and RKP5637 Sep 2016 #52
We all knew he would find some excuse. In_The_Wind Sep 2016 #6
He was a total and complete malaise Sep 2016 #8
He lived up to my expectations. In_The_Wind Sep 2016 #11
Mine too malaise Sep 2016 #12
Someone commented that the bar was set low for him and he hit his head on it pinboy3niner Sep 2016 #15
That is very very good malaise Sep 2016 #24
... RKP5637 Sep 2016 #53
tRump played limbo Wednesdays Sep 2016 #61
Definitely mine too madokie Sep 2016 #41
Yes, he and his campaign are blaming everyone and everything except the candidate. 4lbs Sep 2016 #13
Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah malaise Sep 2016 #25
what, supposedly, was wrong with his mike? alas, I had no trouble hearing every ignorant, hateful, niyad Sep 2016 #19
Well we heard his breathing problems - his sniveling malaise Sep 2016 #29
ah, I see. niyad Sep 2016 #32
Everyone is seeing that he snorts too much coke JoeOtterbein Sep 2016 #34
Heheheheheheheh malaise Sep 2016 #38
A poor workman central scrutinizer Sep 2016 #21
Grandma loved that proverb malaise Sep 2016 #30
As did my mother madokie Sep 2016 #42
It's like a corollary to Trump's Razor. randome Sep 2016 #23
The simplistic explanation HassleCat Sep 2016 #27
It's hard to wrap your head around that at times. randome Sep 2016 #31
Maybe that's part of his appeal. HassleCat Sep 2016 #39
Turns out Hillary was right - malaise Sep 2016 #33
Trump is major wimp C_U_L8R Sep 2016 #26
Agreed malaise Sep 2016 #35
HRC's response today was epic mcar Sep 2016 #43
Raymond's last day as Donald Trump's soundman. bluesbassman Sep 2016 #45
Hehehehehehhe malaise Sep 2016 #46
Did you watch his facial expressions? He has no time for any of this, just wants the deal jtuck004 Sep 2016 #48
I wonder if he will quit or wind up in a sanitarium malaise Sep 2016 #49
I want to see..... machoneman Sep 2016 #50
It will go down in history as one of the most lame excuses ever for a piss poor debater. RKP5637 Sep 2016 #51
Just trying to sell more Trump Whine.... Wounded Bear Sep 2016 #54
Is there Trump cheese to go with it? 3catwoman3 Sep 2016 #60
He wasn't blaming the microphone. GoCubsGo Sep 2016 #55
I'm a sound engineer. I didn't hear a problem. TrogL Sep 2016 #56
Narcissists Sandersdemocrat2020 Sep 2016 #57
The sad thing is, wncHillsupport Sep 2016 #58
Pence Sandersdemocrat2020 Sep 2016 #59

Penn Voter

(247 posts)
1. I know Malaise
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 06:56 PM
Sep 2016

the overgrown orange baby will blame everyone and everything for his failures. I remember when he blamed an earpiece for his failure to decline the endorsement of David Duke.

Penn Voter

(247 posts)
16. Thank You!
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 07:13 PM
Sep 2016

It is a pleasure to be here. The conman can run but he cannot hide from audiotape, videotape, and a 90-minute one-on-one debate.

Siwsan

(26,275 posts)
9. I know he KNOWS he lost, but that doesn't mean he doesn't still think, on some level, that he WON
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 07:01 PM
Sep 2016

Because, after all, this is Donald Trump we're talking about. Incomprehensible Donald Trump.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
47. I'm sorry, did you say PoorFearia ?
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 08:48 PM
Sep 2016

Is that anything like BlackFearia?

Or the dreaded FearMeia? (I'm still practicing saying that one).

Warpy

(111,282 posts)
17. Well, he thinks, all sensible people out there appreciated his superior intelligence
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 07:13 PM
Sep 2016

and understood all his carefully constructed points. It's only those unwashed, overweight morons who are too stupid to fully recognize his innate superiority to everyone else who claim he lost the debate.

It was all their fault! It was RIGGED! His people will make sure they vote the right way at the polls!

Siwsan

(26,275 posts)
18. I know someone like Trump. They get away with things because NOBODY wants to deal with them
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 07:24 PM
Sep 2016

They are so difficult and obstreperous that dealing with them almost drains you of the will to live so it's easier to agree with them and maintain your sanity. Trying to pin them down on any point is like swatting at a fruit fly with a tennis racquet. I spent over 6 years working with someone whose behavior was so similar to Trump's, watching him gives me PTSD.

Warpy

(111,282 posts)
20. I think most of us have met at least one raging narcissist
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 07:28 PM
Sep 2016

who sucks all the oxygen out of the air while making the whole universe revolve around him or her. The best thing you can possibly do is try to avoid them. If you can't, learning how to deflect the bluster can help.

I used to get them as patients once in a while. Fortunately, they're fairly rare.

Siwsan

(26,275 posts)
22. I took an early retirement to get away from that particular nightmare
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 07:34 PM
Sep 2016

She was particularly vile, ramping up her bullying behavior, towards me, right about the time I was dealing with losing my sister and mother. I realized how short life really is, and didn't want to waste another instant of it dealing with her psychosis.

Best decision I ever made.

And yea - she's a BIG Trump supporter.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
5. He's lying
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 06:59 PM
Sep 2016

I watched the debate in real time and every time he snorted he snorted. It wasn't the mic snorting for him it was him doing it. Maybe my lying eyes are deceiving me but I don't remember when the last time that's happened so I don't hold much hope in that scenario being the case.

tRump is lying his ass off is my bet

madokie

(51,076 posts)
14. I have to admit I've not paid much attention to him before these last 7 years or so
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 07:08 PM
Sep 2016

What I don't get is how is it that he can act so goofy when he's on camera and it doesn't bother him that he does that when he sees himself on film.

Not only is he a liar but he's one WEIRD ass dude. Too weird to be the head of state, pResident or whatever of any country.



I laugh at him, not with him

RKP5637

(67,111 posts)
52. Exactly!!! "... he's one WEIRD ass dude." He's really freaky. Now, 100 million people here and
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 09:26 PM
Sep 2016

abroad have seen how F'en bizarre he is.

4lbs

(6,858 posts)
13. Yes, he and his campaign are blaming everyone and everything except the candidate.
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 07:03 PM
Sep 2016

Trump was given too many questions!

Trump was given too few questions!

Trump was given too much time to talk!

Trump was not given enough time to talk!

Lester Holt was too mean!

Lester Holt wasn't mean enough!

There were too many people sitting!

There weren't enough people there!

Hillary was too timid!

Hillary was too mean to me!

niyad

(113,413 posts)
19. what, supposedly, was wrong with his mike? alas, I had no trouble hearing every ignorant, hateful,
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 07:25 PM
Sep 2016

ugly word out of his mouth last night.

malaise

(269,067 posts)
29. Well we heard his breathing problems - his sniveling
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 07:50 PM
Sep 2016

snorting, as well as his whining, interrupting, lying, woman-hating, uninformed, devoid of facts, incoherent psychobabble.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
23. It's like a corollary to Trump's Razor.
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 07:39 PM
Sep 2016

Whatever is the most stupid excuse you can think of, that will be the one he uses. Same for his debate performance: many pundits were wondering if he might be easily baited and lose control and...he did.

There are few mysteries left regarding Donald Trump. He behaves like you expect. Every time. And that's surprising.
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randome

(34,845 posts)
31. It's hard to wrap your head around that at times.
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 07:52 PM
Sep 2016

We're used to politicians not showing us their true natures, and having to come up with theories to explain their actions. But Trump is so simplistic and so -dare I say it?- honest about his dishonesty, that it isn't easy to see what's right in front of us: Trump is a simple-minded creature. There's so little depth there that you start wondering if you're using the wrong metrics.
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malaise

(269,067 posts)
33. Turns out Hillary was right -
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 07:53 PM
Sep 2016

you can bait him with a Tweet - damn she nailedit with daddy's inheritance - that was delish!

C_U_L8R

(45,003 posts)
26. Trump is major wimp
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 07:46 PM
Sep 2016

and quite a whiner.
He will never admit he got his ass kicked
and he'll repeat the same mistakes over and over.
If you want a definition of insanity, see Trump.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
48. Did you watch his facial expressions? He has no time for any of this, just wants the deal
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 09:02 PM
Sep 2016

done and his crown placed. He thinks his pontificating of nonsensical crap means anything to anyone outside of his own reality.

I still think the first thought he had about anything is how much more he can get his brand out there, good or bad, just get it out. This whole presidency thing is beneath him, as he assumes everyone in the entire world is,but it is a handy vehicle.

But now the ridicule is building, to his surprise, and he is lashing out. He has always been able to make some bad used car salesman excuse to everyone before, since their alternative is him being a childish bully. That and the money he borrows gets him a lot, except being anything like a decent human being.

But he forgot that being a bully on a tv screen means we can just turn him off. Not the brightest bulb in the box, clearly.

$14 million sure bought his dad a rotten piece of fruit. (I wonder who worked to pay the money back for him? This creep has never worked.)

I wonder if he will quit or wind up in a sanitarium.

machoneman

(4,007 posts)
50. I want to see.....
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 09:17 PM
Sep 2016

...some old video where he may have done this in the past.

Seeing more footage, especially in the NYC Studio 54 era when coke was available at the special side booths. I'll bet it does exist and would prove the link to his drug use, especially a snort or two just before the event to lighten his load.

Any film noire folks her?

TrogL

(32,822 posts)
56. I'm a sound engineer. I didn't hear a problem.
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 09:50 PM
Sep 2016

When a mic goes bad it is really, really evident, especially if you know what to listen for.

Both mics sounded the same and both candidates were at the same level.

I suspect the engineer used a lot of compression on both candidates because Hillary can be a bit shrill and Trump tends to bellow. Trump may have missed his usual big booming sound used at his rallies.

57. Narcissists
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 09:52 PM
Sep 2016

Trump is a classic narcissist. He is never wrong, and all his failings are someone else's fault, not his. It is always another person's fault, or a faulty microphone, a bad question, etc.

I think the only reason that Trump has gotten so far is that there is a sizable part of the population that suffers from anti-social and psychopathological problems. They are attracted to Trump's narcissistic bullying because they themselves are bullies. This is not to criticize good people who suffer from psych troubles. Just to spot the intolerant people.

There are a few books that provide insight into the minds of people like Trump. One is called "The Sociopath Next Door". Another is "Snakes In Suits: When Sociopaths Go To Work". Power and business tends to attract a certain percentage of the narcissists with sociopathic tendencies.

Hopefully the followers of Trump will be outnumbered by the reasonable number of Americans who will oppose him. The man is dangerous, and it is very unnerving that someone like Trump could get this close to the Presidency. Mussolini is a good case study for this sort of "politician".

wncHillsupport

(112 posts)
58. The sad thing is,
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 10:04 PM
Sep 2016

I almost feel sorry for trump. Because I feel bad for any person with a mental illness. He has such a very serious illness that it is just not laughable. In addition, another problem is if his Foundation issues bring him down legally, then who the heck might they put in in his place? It could be a huge (no pun intended) mess.

59. Pence
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 10:28 PM
Sep 2016

My guess is that if Trump got knocked out by some legal issue, then his running mate, Pence, would take his place. It is a good question, though. I am not sure what would happen to a campaign where the candidate got knocked out for whatever reason.

As far as sympathy for Trump goes: I have very little. I reserve most of my sympathy for the people that this sociopathic bully has harmed throughout his life. There are plenty of people with mental illness who are good people. There are just some, like Trump, who are simply assholes (pardon my French), regardless of their mental pathology.

I think if you could magically remove Trump's narcissism, he would still be a jerk. He would just not be the world class jerk that he is due to the magnification of his odious personality by his narcissism.

In any case, Trump must be stopped. I am dismayed that someone like him has gotten this far.

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