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By BRYAN M. VANCE, CONRAD WILSON 4 HOURS AGO
Occupation leader Ammon Bundy is expected to begin his third and likely final day of testimony Thursday morning ... Hes expected to give about 90 minutes of direct testimony, and then all of the other defense attorneys will get to ask Ammon Bundy questions ...
... jurors could see an unusual occurrence in federal court: one brother questioning another about the alleged conspiracy and the occupation ...
... In his first two days on the stand, he has essentially retold his life story ...
Hes also spoken a lot about his faith and his belief that the Constitution is a divine document ...
http://ijpr.org/post/ammon-bundy-takes-stand-3rd-day-oregon-standoff-trial#stream/0
struggle4progress
(118,356 posts)KOIN 6 News Staff
Published: October 6, 2016, 6:00 am
Updated: October 6, 2016, 12:37 pm
... Bundy returned to the witness stand for a third day and explained why he felt 3 possible outcomes of the refuge takeover would help further his cause.
First of all, he said, the occupation would inevitably garner media attention and give ranchers like himself an opportunity express their concerns with federal government overreach.
The refuge takeover effort could also possibly give Harney County residents control over the land and local resources, a primary goal in the occupation.
Even if Bundy was arrested, charged with trespassing and served with an eviction notice, he said he could fight the issue of land ownership in court ...
http://koin.com/2016/10/06/ammon-bundy-testify-for-3rd-day-in-malheur-case/
struggle4progress
(118,356 posts)By Maxine Bernstein | The Oregonian/OregonLive
on October 06, 2016 at 12:43 PM
updated October 06, 2016 at 1:10 PM
... "Victoria Sharp and Shawna Cox were in the van. Ryan and LaVoy were not,'' he said. "They very emotionally told me LaVoy had been shot.''
Assistant U.S. Attorney Ethan Knight objected, and U.S. District Judge Anna J. Brown sustained it. It was the first of many similar objections that followed Thursday ...
Bundy ... described his training sessions on land rights, and he showed jurors videos of their prayer sessions and videos and photos of his visits with ranchers from the community. He described how he and others freely traveled to and from the refuge during the stay there, grabbing a haircut and Chinese food in Burns on some visits and traveling to and from his home in Emmett, Idaho, three times ...
Bundy also said a post found on his Facebook page with a man dressed in camouflage with an assault rifle that read, "Forgive Me Father For I Will Sin'' was put up by him. He said five others had access to his Facebook account ...
http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-standoff/2016/10/ammon_bundy_describes_arrest_m.html
haele
(12,681 posts)Does he mean he swallowed the sloppy Dominionist histrionics David Barton is peddling as U.S. History, that the Constitution was handed down from on High to Adams, Jefferson, Madison and Co. to enshrine in Law for this country?
The Constitution was "so divine" that the Continental Congress began amending the it before the ink on the ratifying signatures was dry, and continued to be amended as circumstances warranted.
Haele
struggle4progress
(118,356 posts)Some of us actually remember what we learned in high school
haele
(12,681 posts)Of course, we were living 30 miles from Vandenburg AFB at the time, and the town fathers still had Cold War fears...
I do remember my Mom and Dad trying to figure out New Math when I brought it home, though.
Haele
struggle4progress
(118,356 posts)Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)And the Golden Calf shall graze for free upon Federal land.
FreeState
(10,584 posts)They believe the constitution is an inspired document by God.
Edit to add:
https://www.lds.org/ensign/1992/02/the-divinely-inspired-constitution?lang=eng
Submariner
(12,509 posts)maybe we can get lucky and he will hang himself.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Treat your body like a machine. Your mind like a castle.[/center][/font][hr]
struggle4progress
(118,356 posts)Steve Bertel
2:36 PM, Oct 6, 2016
Ammon Bundy testified he believed his life was in "extreme danger" during his arrest ...
... Bundy described the Jan. 26 traffic stop that ended with his arrest, saying he feared getting shot .. and was too afraid to pick up his hat.
Bundy also described Robert "LaVoy" Finicum's death as an ambush ...
When Bundy called it an ambush, U.S. District Judge Anna Brown halted further mention of the topic, reminding the courtroom that Finicum's death is not being litigated.
http://www.kivitv.com/news/ammon-bundy-says-he-felt-his-life-was-in-extreme-danger-during-arrest
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)Ammon is going to get carved up on cross-examination.
lindysalsagal
(20,733 posts)I would have thought he would be all tapped out in 5 minutes....
GOLGO 13
(1,681 posts)Volaris
(10,274 posts)struggle4progress
(118,356 posts)By Maxine Bernstein | The Oregonian/OregonLive
on October 06, 2016 at 6:14 PM, updated October 06, 2016 at 7:02 PM
After Ammon Bundy spent three days testifying .. a prosecutor Thursday afternoon fired rapid questions at him during a cross-examination that lasted just under 15 minutes ...
The prosecutor asked if it were true that Bundy testified earlier Thursday that "We were all there for a unified purpose.''
Bundy said he didn't remember ...
Knight asked if it were true that Bundy had received a $530,000 loan from the U.S. Small Business Administration to support his business. Bundy's lawyer objected to the question, but the judge overruled the objection ...
http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-standoff/2016/10/prosecutors_brief_cross-examin.html
struggle4progress
(118,356 posts)By: AP
Posted: Oct 06, 2016 02:06 PM PDT
Updated: Oct 06, 2016 06:12 PM PDT
... Assistant U.S. Attorney Ethan Knight pressed Ammon Bundy on Friday on his claim that he wasn't the leader, pointing to earlier testimony in which he said he was "sort of" in charge.
Bundy told Knight he teaches correct principles and lets people govern themselves.
Bundy also acknowledged receiving a $530,000 U.S. Small Business Administration loan to help his commercial vehicle maintenance business.
He rejected that it made him a hypocrite. Bundy says he supports the federal government, but not its management of land within states ...
http://www.ktvz.com/news/ammon-bundy-says-he-felt-in-extreme-danger-during-arrest/107760951
Eugene
(61,963 posts)Source: Reuters
Armed occupation leader cites religious faith in justifying Oregon refuge takeover
By Scott Bransford | PORTLAND, ORE.
Ammon Bundy, who led an armed occupation of a U.S. wildlife center in Oregon earlier this year, testified in federal court on Thursday that his hostility toward federal land ownership was shaped by his religious faith and "natural laws."
Taking the witness stand for a third day at his conspiracy trial in U.S. District Court in Portland, Bundy delved further into the ideology he said was behind the forcible takeover of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge by a band of militants in January.
Bundy told jurors that his group seized the refuge in rural eastern Oregon not only to protest what they saw as overreach by the U.S. government but to show how public lands should be entrusted to private citizens according to an ancient, divinely inspired set of doctrines.
These principles, theyre not something that comes and goes, Bundy, 41, said under questioning from his attorney. Theyre natural laws that we were teaching.
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Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-oregon-militia-idUSKCN12705I
Maru Kitteh
(28,342 posts)Freakin looney-tune grifter.
This is about about convincing all twelve jurors that he's guilty.
It's a win-win for this asshole. Guilty, he gets six years, serves two including time served. Fox News, books, speaking fees, etc.
Not guilty or hung jury? Same thing except charging twice as much.
Either way it's got to be more money and easier work than owning a limo company in Phoenix pays.
Maru Kitteh
(28,342 posts)Nevernose
(13,081 posts)He either convinces one of them that saving America from birds is patriotic -- just one -- or he's found guilty. Either way, he wins. The punishment isn't very severe if he's guilty, and if it's a hung jury he can begin his militia speaker circuit a couple of years sooner. Hell, two or three years behind bars might make him a martyr to the lunatic right and a millionaire after he gets out.
tblue37
(65,490 posts)Rex
(65,616 posts)Is there a time limit?
UTUSN
(70,744 posts)struggle4progress
(118,356 posts)STEVEN DUBOIS
ASSOCIATED PRESS
PORTLAND, Ore. Oct 6, 2016, 8:58 PM ET
... Bundy was questioned by his own attorney and lawyers representing the other six people charged in the alleged conspiracy. One was his brother and co-defendant Ryan Bundy, who's acting as his own lawyer.
"How you doing, brother?" Ammon asked Ryan at the start of the testimony.
The pair discussed their relationship, from childhood to the start of the occupation. Ammon testified that the pair spoke by phone in the run up to the occupation, but never discussed the refuge or impeding federal workers ...
"I know you were not very prepared, didn't have much of a jacket," said Ammon Bundy ...
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/turnaround-bundy-denies-leading-refuge-occupiers-42632643
struggle4progress
(118,356 posts)Thursday, October 06, 2016Last Update: 6:24 PM PT
By KARINA BROWN
... Knight spent about 15 minutes mostly asking Bundy about statements he had made under direct examination. Using his usual earnest tone of voice, Bundy denied or claimed not to remember events he had recently described.
Bundy changed his tune about whether he was the leader of the occupation, claimed not to remember whether he was in Burns in November 2015 for a series of meetings he had earlier described having with Harney County Sheriff Dave Ward, and claimed he didn't remember talking about making changes to the refuge.
During questioning from his lawyer Marcus Mumford, Bundy had detailed the "improvements" he and his fellow occupiers made to the refuge in line with their belief that they could claim the deed to the federal property through the arcane legal doctrine of adverse possession.
But he backpedaled when Knight asked him about the legal process he had earlier described with enthusiasm and certainty ...
http://www.courthousenews.com/2016/10/06/despite-prior-testimony-ammon-bundy-cant-remember-occupying-oregon-refuge.htm
struggle4progress
(118,356 posts)By Reuters Media
Today at 9:23 a.m.
... During a brief, heated cross-examination, federal prosecutor Ethan Knight questioned how Bundy could disdain federal land management while owning a truck repair business that once received a $530,000 loan from the Small Business Administration, a federal agency.
Bundy asserted he did not fully understand that the loan he received came from the SBA, since he obtained it with the help of a private bank.
I recall I got it through that, but Im not sure what that means, Bundy said ...
http://www.brainerddispatch.com/news/elsewhere/4131492-armed-occupation-leader-bundy-cites-religious-faith-justifying-oregon-refuge
struggle4progress
(118,356 posts)by STEVEN DUBOIS, Associated Press
... Medenbach's lawyer, Matthew Schindler, asked Bundy how a federal employee was supposed to work when Bundy was using her office and sitting in her chair.
"I didn't really think of it," Bundy said ...
http://katu.com/news/local/in-turnaround-bundy-denies-leading-refuge-occupiers
struggle4progress
(118,356 posts)struggle4progress
(118,356 posts)By The Oregonian/OregonLive
on October 07, 2016 at 5:00 AM
updated October 07, 2016 at 5:02 AM
... Jeanette Finicum, the widow of occupation spokesman Robert "LaVoy'' Finicum, briefly testified. She visited the refuge the weekend of Jan. 22, and had planned to meet up with her husband again in Idaho on the following weekend.
The judge didn't allow anyone to question Finicum's widow about her husband's shooting, or a wrongful death lawsuit that she intends to bring against the government.
The federal conspiracy trial will resume on Tuesday next week. Testimony will be heard Tuesday, Thursday and Friday ...
"What we did with Ammon Bundy took far too long,'' the judge told defense lawyers. Bundy was on the stand for a total of about 10 hours over three days ...
http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-standoff/2016/10/oregon_standoff_trial_thursday_3.html
struggle4progress
(118,356 posts)Oct 07, 2016
by Associated Press
Under .. cross-examination, Ammon Bundy denied leading the occupation of a national wildlife refuge and defended receiving a U.S. Small Business Administration loan.
Bundy, 41, who's on trial for conspiring to impede Interior Department workers from doing their jobs at the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge, was quickly reminded Thursday by Assistant U.S. Attorney Ethan Knight that he had earlier testified that he was the leader.
Bundy said he was not a leader in the way Knight considers him to be ...
http://knpr.org/headline/2016-10/ammon-bundy-contradicts-himself-during-malheur-trial
struggle4progress
(118,356 posts)By Maxine Bernstein | The Oregonian/OregonLive
on October 09, 2016 at 5:00 AM, updated October 09, 2016 at 9:30 AM
... The greeting began .. an extremely rare direct examination between two defendants who are brothers: one serving as his own lawyer and the other testifying in his own defense ...
The photo appeared to show two faint paths leading to the bunkhouse. Ryan Bundy asked his brother to circle both paths on his computer screen, attempting to challenge the prosecution's contention that occupiers used refuge equipment to build a new road on the property.
"Further digging was done to help improve the wheelchair access?'' Ryan Bundy asked.
"Yes,'' Ammon Bundy said ...
http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-standoff/2016/10/mr_bundy_how_ya_doing_began_ra.html