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underpants

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Sat Oct 8, 2016, 08:08 AM Oct 2016

Hillary's (Podesta) leaked Wall St speech emails - I don't see anything here

As we were all watching the Trump outreach to women take a wild turn yesterday I was curious as to these leaked emails about Hillary's Wall St. speeches. In a rather obvious move Russia hackers provided Wikileaks what they had found in Podesta's emails.

I, personally, don't see much here. Yes she is talking to an audience who paid for her to be there, there is that. What I see is her being open about the nature of policy, soothing their egos, and SHOCKER she likes single payer. Because we have to live in a world with our weird cousins (the right) we do have to realize that they are going to jump on the "open borders" and Abe Lincoln reference. I saw that last night Fox News main article on this was Dinesh D'Souza's oh so inciteful take on it. So, there that.

Posted below are TomCADem's DU thread, a link to the (sympathetic but reasonable) Vox story, and Slate's take which is not sympathetic. Also I am posting direct quotes from the emails.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=1591252

http://www.vox.com/2016/10/7/13206882/hillary-clinton-wikileaks-speeches-goldman


http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/2016/10/07/wikileaks_releases_excerpts_of_hillary_clinton_s_wall_street_speeches.html



There's nothing magic about regulations, too much is bad, too little is bad. How do you get to the golden key, how do we figure out what works? And the people that know the industry better than anybody are the people who work in the industry.

“My dream is a hemispheric common market, with open trade and open borders, some time in the future with energy that is as green and sustainable as we can get it, powering growth and opportunity for every person in the hemisphere.”

“If you look at the single-payer systems, like Scandinavia, Canada, and elsewhere, they can get costs down because, you know, although their care, according to statistics, overall is as good or better on primary care, in particular, they do impose things like waiting times, you know. It takes longer to get like a hip replacement than it might take here.”

“We're in a learning period as we move forward with the implementation of the Affordable Care Act. And I'm hoping that whatever the shortfalls or the glitches have been, which in a big piece of legislation you're going to have, those will be remedied and we can really take a hard look at what's succeeding, fix what isn't, and keep moving forward to get to affordable universal healthcare coverage like you have here in Canada.”


This is not a direct quote but I can't copy it from the links above:
During a talk before the National Multi-Housing Council in 2013, she talked about the need to keep political negotiations secret, for instance, citing the example of Abraham Lincoln's wheeling and dealing to get the 13th amendment passed. "I mean, politics is like sausage being made," she said. "It is unsavory, and it always has been that way, but we usually end up where we need to be. But if everybody’s watching, you know, all of the back room discussions and the deals, you know, then people get a little nervous, to say the least. So, you need both a public and a private position."

the following are direct quotes
That was one of the reasons that I started traveling in February of ‘09, so people could, you know, literally yell at me for the United States and our banking system causing this everywhere. Now, that’s an oversimplification we know, but it was the conventional wisdom. And I think that there’s a lot that could have been avoided in terms of both misunderstanding and really politicizing what happened with greater transparency, with greater openness on all sides, you know, what happened, how did it happen, how do we prevent it from happening? You guys help us figure it out and let’s make sure that we do it right this time.

When I was a Senator from New York, I represented and worked with so many talented principled people who made their living in finance. But even thought I represented them and did all I could to make sure they continued to prosper, I called for closing the carried interest loophole and addressing skyrocketing CEO pay. I also was calling in ‘06, ‘07 for doing something about the mortgage crisis, because I saw every day from Wall Street literally to main streets across New York how a well-functioning financial system is essential. So when I raised early warnings about early warnings about subprime mortgages and called for regulating derivatives and over complex financial products, I didn’t get some big arguments, because people sort of said, no, that makes sense. But boy, have we had fights about it ever since.

At the State Department we were attacked every hour, more than once an hour by incoming efforts to penetrate everything we had. And that was true across the U.S. government. And we knew it was going on when I would go to China, or I would go to Russia, we would leave all of our electronic equipment on the plane, with the batteries out, because this is a new frontier.

Secondly, running for office in our country takes a lot of money, and candidates have to go out and raise it. New York is probably the leading site for contributions for fundraising for candidates on both sides of the aisle, and it’s also our economic center. And there are a lot of people here who should ask some tough questions before handing over campaign contributions to people who were really playing chicken with our whole economy.

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Hillary's (Podesta) leaked Wall St speech emails - I don't see anything here (Original Post) underpants Oct 2016 OP
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True Dough

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Sat Oct 8, 2016, 08:22 AM
Oct 2016

There's nothing scandalous there at all. One the one hand we have a sexual predator who doesn't pay taxes. On the other hand we have a senator and secretary of state who gave speeches to bankers for good coin and she gently provided them with her insights on how to improve the system.

Which is more galling? Hmm, pretty clear cut, I'd say!

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