And it's payback time.

"Those w/the gold rule."

ability to use fear,fear, and hate to win elections... heavily uninformed electorate is the key.

They lost big in the next election cycle. The existence of the GOP at all is a tribute to the long term ignorance, stupidity, racism and bigotry of the the American people for a very long time.

We must remember how many years we have had GOP presidents.

I hope it is over but I fear they will rise from the ashes and go full nuclear on our systems.

The millions of people who voted for Trump aren't going anywhere.

These are your co-workers, your neighbors, --and quite possibly your friends and family members.

Trump has given them confidence and fueled their rage. They're not going to just shrug their shoulders and go back to work Wednesday morning like McCain and Romney voters did.

And they're not going to accept Hillary Clinton as their president.

It's not over. Not by a long shot. Things are going to get worse before they get better.

Fence-sitters can be convinced back over on the side of human civilization at times like this.

I've never agreed with the "worse will result in better" pattern, either. When, in a political context, has that ever happened? Seems like a ported-over original sin idea to me, adapted to a political context. Humans are basically good.

Union, librul, teacher, feminist, divorced, atheist...

No wonder I'm in such a good mood today!

Sadly.

As far as the presidency goes I doubt they will touch it any time soon. However a Clinton presidency is going to be scrutinized every bit as hard as Obama's was and maybe more so. A large corporate agenda from Clinton could easily put them back in power in four years. We have seen this election how vulnerable she is. Her image is going to have to improve a lot in the next four years or she is going to have trouble again in the next cycle and I doubt they will pick someone as crazy as Trump next go around.

We wont be free of their nonsense till we start eliminating them from the house, senate and local legislatures. We have a long way to go on that.

Work with the possibility of progress seems qualitatively better to me than simply fighting to lose more slowly in the way we have been. GOTV.

If Clinton does a good job I think there is an opportunity to shut the door on them for decades. There is a lot riding on her presidency.

She can either shut the door on them for good or open the way for them to rebuild in my opinion. She is going to be facing some strong headwinds but if she embraces a progressive agenda I think she can put them down once and for all. I hope she does... Lot's of banker money in those pantsuit pockets though and I fear she may bend to their will just enough to leave that door open instead of slamming it shut.

according to the GOP, I doubt if they will acknowledge anything good that Clinton will do.

I am tired of living in fear over their proposed dystopia. I just want it all to stop. How on earth has it come to this?

How apropos.

Maybe this will expose the hypocrisy of the Trump-endorsing "family values" waterheads who want to outlaw contraception and force creationism and "abstinence only" into our schools.

Imagine a newly reconstructed national Republican party that took a more libertarian stance on social issues and removed the evangelical agenda, but kept it's social conservatism at the local level. That would be a ridiculously dangerous opponent to the Democratic party as it exists today (though it might have the advantage of pushing it further left).

as in, most Americans support things like pot legalization. Time was, that "liberal" was synonymous with be pro-freedom and pro-choice as far as consenting adults and what they choose to do with their own bodies, bloodstreams and bedrooms, insofar as they aren't hurting anyone else.

I think a strong re-commitment to those values would negate much of the appeal the (L) party has, particularly with young people.

The host paraphrased Thomas Franks as having predicted that the next GOP candidate will be a smooth-talking Trump who will hold the same views and pursue the same agenda but will have a more reasonable-seeming media presence.

Noam Chomsky, today's guest, immediately answered "Well they already have him, and his name is Paul Ryan."

IMO Chomsky is 100% correct. The GOP isn't going anywhere, and they'll be back worse than before. Further, they still hold a dishonest majority of state legislatures and will likely retain them through 2020, when they'll get to re-gerrymander their districts to guarantee their stranglehold for another decade at least.



Sorry to break it to you, but the GOP will continue to terrorize you and everyone else for the foreseeable future.

and blatant cretin, Trump, still has a ridiculous amount of support in the country. And now, all the extreme RWers in office will look tame by comparison. Talk about moving the middle.

I was too little while Regan was president to notice. To me it seems things started to go crazy with the Republicans while Bill Clinton was president and just got increasingly worse every year up until now.

I was not old enough to vote when Regan came in but I was old enough to see what horrible things happened in my community because of him. We still have the lingering effects. I was about two years from voting but learned then never to go Republican. I live in one of those small towns and counties that usually get the worst brunt of the type decisions that Republicans love to make.