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Sgent

(5,857 posts) Mon Oct 10, 2016, 02:23 AM Oct 2016

VOX: Is Donald Trump right when he says Hillary Clinton deleted 33,000 emails? Yes and no.

http://www.vox.com/2016/10/10/13222360/trump-emails-clinton

That first batch of around 30,000 emails has been released piecemeal by the State Department. The second batch of “non-work related” emails, around 32,000 of them, were eventually deleted.

It’s for the deletion of this second group of emails that Trump thinks Clinton should be jailed. The idea, popular among some conservatives, is that Clinton ducked congressional investigators by deleting these private emails — which they think may have contained damaging Clinton secrets — while under subpoena.

This accusation is very difficult to maintain under the facts produced by the FBI for a few key reasons.

For one, Clinton’s staff told the contractor managing the private sever to delete the second batch of emails in December 2014, according to the FBI. The House Republicans’ Benghazi committee didn’t order that all emails on the private server be preserved until March 2015. (There’s a complicated counter-narrative that these emails weren’t actually deleted until a conference call with Bill Clinton’s attorneys after the subpoena was issued, but that story doesn’t make much sense for reasons I explained here.)

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VOX: Is Donald Trump right when he says Hillary Clinton deleted 33,000 emails? Yes and no. (Original Post) Sgent Oct 2016 OP

There is no doubt this email stuff is complete bullshit The_Casual_Observer Oct 2016 #1

All based on the unshakeable conviction that Hillary is involved in vast conspiracies bhikkhu Oct 2016 #2

In the 1st debate he said 30,000 emails TexasProgresive Oct 2016 #3

22 million from a RNC server at end of Bush administration. sinkingfeeling Oct 2016 #4

By the last debate it'll be eleventy billion. nt Guy Whitey Corngood Oct 2016 #7

Hillary's attorneys deleted the private emails long before the subpoena from Congress ... kwassa Oct 2016 #5

Am I the only person that could totally give a crap about the e-mail "scandal". smirkymonkey Oct 2016 #6

No, You Are Not RobinA Oct 2016 #8

Facts don't matter. It's what their gut tells them that matter. Capt. Obvious Oct 2016 #9

I'm concerned Hillary still won't deny a role in Lincoln's assassination struggle4progress Oct 2016 #10

Not to mention NewJeffCT Oct 2016 #11

The_Casual_Observer

(27,742 posts)

1. There is no doubt this email stuff is complete bullshit

Reply to Sgent (Original post)

Mon Oct 10, 2016, 02:29 AM

Oct 2016

And a conspiracy theory no different than the birther bullshit.

TrumP has lost the election.

bhikkhu

(10,718 posts)

2. All based on the unshakeable conviction that Hillary is involved in vast conspiracies

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Mon Oct 10, 2016, 03:29 AM

Oct 2016

which were certain to be revealed and proven by the emails, followed by a long-waited public reckoning. When their expected Christmas failed to arrive and only basic competent day-to-day management of the state department was revealed, the only explanation was that all the criminal enterprises were edited out.

TexasProgresive

(12,157 posts)

3. In the 1st debate he said 30,000 emails

Reply to Sgent (Original post)

Mon Oct 10, 2016, 07:15 AM

Oct 2016

Last night he said 32,000 and when he got hot inflated to 39,000. So how many emails were deleted anyway?

He's such a liar it's hard to find any truth in anything he says.

sinkingfeeling

(51,457 posts)

4. 22 million from a RNC server at end of Bush administration.

Reply to TexasProgresive (Reply #3)

Mon Oct 10, 2016, 09:57 AM

Oct 2016

Guy Whitey Corngood

(26,501 posts)

7. By the last debate it'll be eleventy billion. nt

Reply to TexasProgresive (Reply #3)

Mon Oct 10, 2016, 11:12 AM

Oct 2016

kwassa

(23,340 posts)

5. Hillary's attorneys deleted the private emails long before the subpoena from Congress ...

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Mon Oct 10, 2016, 10:49 AM

Oct 2016

Hillary had the legal authority to decide which were public and which were private, too.

And Trump said he would throw her in jail for this, for violating a subpoena she didn't violate.

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)

6. Am I the only person that could totally give a crap about the e-mail "scandal".

Reply to Sgent (Original post)

Mon Oct 10, 2016, 10:57 AM

Oct 2016

She did something not quite kosher, she was investigated, she realized her mistake and will probably never do it again. The big thing is, what she did is not going to affect the lives of the average American one iota. I am so tired of hearing about it. Why do people see this as such an issue?

RobinA

(9,893 posts)

8. No, You Are Not

Reply to smirkymonkey (Reply #6)

Mon Oct 10, 2016, 12:09 PM

Oct 2016

the only person. It will end up in the annals of bullshit Clinton "scandals" along with Travelgate, Whitewater, et. al. We just have to endure it until it does. Hard as that may be.