Or one of the ghoul brothers.

For certain Pence will be around.

The one I'm watching is Cory Gardner from my state of Colorado. Handsome, young, good christian, not bombastic but pro life, anti gay. Watch for him. As long as a good chunk of the deplorables go back under their rocks, Gardner might have a good shot.

The only thing Trump wants less than to lose to a woman is to lose to her twice.

God only knows what this race has cost him. Certainly tarished his brand. He won't run again. He'll start up some media business with Ailes.

You can bet that the RNC will work to change its rules between now and 2020 specifically so that they can oust a nominee post-primary if they feel that the candidate "doesn't represent core Republican values" or the like.

The 2020 GOP nominee will be Maryland Governor Larry Hogan.

he has no more chance than a Democrat of being the Republican presidential nominee.

He plays well in Western Maryland, which is pretty deeply conservative.

I think the Palin/Trump wing of the party bails in a post-election schism. The guys with the money want candidates that will win

but the way he sniffs all the time points to underlying health problems that are only going to get worse.

Don't forget the Trump University suits and the soon to come missuse of the Trump Trust funds cases. He may not even be able be on Trump-TV.

chicken, that ought to take care of the problem, in perpetuity.

One suggestion was to require a minimum number of years of congressional or gubernatorial service to be eligible to run for the nomination. If Trump crashes and burns as I expect such a proposal may be irresistible.

He'll be 74 and I doubt he'd want to do this for nearly 2 years again. Plus his business is really being hit hard with profit.

The whole party is pretty toxic right now.

Which will make him unworthy of their worship. And reruns of TV reality shows are useless. Plus he may be in prison by then ...

where he can become the "reverse Keith Olberman."

...plus the GOP Mandarins have realized the alt-right deplorables are, well, deplorable. They do not go lockstep into that good rethuglican night, and CANNOT be counted on to be termed - AND USED - as part of the GOP faithful.

No, EVERYONE, and I do mean EVERYONE, in the GOP that has harbored Presidential aspirations is vigorously gaming their chances for 2020. Simulations are being run, trial campaign balloons are *quietly* being floated, and most importantly, the Lords of Money (Kochs, Adelson, etc.) are being kowtowed to and worshiped, with the GOP electoral wonks - you know, all the ones that would NOT work on the tRump campaign - hanging on every word and nuance.

2020 will not be tRump. He's already been far too much of an embarassment. Today the Congressional rethuglicans are running from tRump like his carrying political ebola.

Even Mike Ditka would have to ask: 'Who Ya Crapp'n?'

One Fool to call them all, one Fool to lie to them, One Fool to lead them all and in the Orange Hair Bind Them.

he will obviously want to tap that cash cow again

Trump's "selling point" is that he's not part of the party establishment. The party establishment now understands how much they are disliked and are figuring out a way to use this to their advantage. They're scouting for a candidate now who doesn't appear to be part of "the establishment" but one they can control behind the scenes, and Trump isn't that guy. If he were, so many republicans wouldn't have bailed on him. Their candidate may be an elected official like a state governor, but not someone who's been a long-time Washington insider (no Senators, Reps or Bush family members).

After this election, I predict that although Trump may threaten to run again, he never actually will. I think even if he wins this election (which he won't), he's not going to run for a second term.

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...carry on the family's dynasty.

...I would tend to agree with you. He would resoundingly get those same supporters to come out for him again. Remember: he feeds on failure, on a sense of self-patheticness in his supporters. They like him because they think their lives are shit and that he can make their lives better.

There would have to be another younger candidate that could tap into that same energy (or lack thereof) to be able to go against him.

If he feels like running again in 2020 (and his empire hasn't collapsed by then) then it's his to lose, imo.

Either Ivanka, Donald Jr, or that other one, Lurch (I think).

I'm not even kidding.

He's helping the Republican party purge itself.

Unless they are all spineless cowards again

As a matter of fact I'm swiping this idea and going to post: Trump 2020 on my Facebook.

Lol.

Its been an absolutely delightful weekend posting all the GOP defections, it cause actual tears from one Trump fan. I love it.

'2016 he was stabbed in the back, but in 4 years he will be ready'

Trump 2020

Lmfao

He will be on to building his media empire.

He will spend weeks and months doing post mortems of the election, including digs at all the disloyal Republicans who didn't do enough to help get him elected and criticism of the horrible media who dared to question his answers at debates.

He will use the built-up outrage of his followers to create some kind of on-going media program, with frequent appearances on Fox News (where he will continue to drive ratings) and on his own shows (like "Sarah Palin's Alaska&quot . He will continue to tweet the same ridiculous thoughts that he's become known for during the campaign, except without any filters or editing by a campaign staff.

And after a few years, as his audience dwindles, he will be appear less and less frequently on Fox News, his shows will be cancelled and he will join Sarah on the clown circuit.

KEN! BONE!

will do what they should have this time- muscle some of the weaker candidates out as quickly as possible.
abort the candidacies of people like ben carson. truncate anyone who doesnt show in the first couple primaries, at the least.

and in the meantime he is the new sarah palin- the face of the drooling right for all the false equivalencies that the media construct for the next 4 years. oh goodie.
but if the media wants to keep him afloat, that is what they will do. if they want to squash him, they can do that too.
i suspect there will still be money to be made off of his ugly face. which will, at the least, convince him that he can win. he wont be able to resist the bait. you are dead on with that.

If the GOP loses both the House and the Senate, I can see a really bitter fight inside the party and there may not be much of an organized party for Trump to go after.

I tend to think that there will be a trump TV or brietbart/trump media organization to monetize the results of the election. That entity could end up as a third party or could be used to take over what remains of the GOP. If the GOP falls apart sufficiently, then I agree that Trump could be the 2020 nominee or more likely Trump could be a third party candidate (the GOP equivalent of the Dixiecrats) which would have the same result

after the way he's been exposed as a predator of women and a person who doesn't pay his suppliers and contractors.

It's great to bathe in the schadenfreude.

Melania will likely divorce him.

First, Donald Trump has seriously damaged his brand and all of the terrible things he's said and done will not be forgotten. While he will retain a base of support, he's lost an equal number of former supporters and customers who will not return. In fact, this is why I believe Trump TV is a fantasy: he won't have enough viewers, there won't be enough variety of content and he won't have enough deep-pocket advertisers to support a 24-hour cable channel. As an example, look what happened to Sarah Palin's TV shows.

Second, Donald Trump may very well be in jail in 2020. There are numerous legal battles that he is fighting, must serious among them being the RICO charges against Trump University, (if he's found guilty, he could face a long jail term). The hyper-scrutiny that he is experiencing-- for the first time in his life!-- is going to expose lots of dirt and possibly additional legal problems.

There is a great possibility that Donald Trump will never recover from this debacle. (I wrote about this in an earlier post:http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028200803) In any event, Mr. Trump is so stupid that he has no idea of the big league hurt he is about to experience. Personally, I'll enjoy his demise because he has been such an evil, corrosive force in our culture.

Trump may well run again but as self financed 3 rd party candidate ( with a little financing help from his comrades et. al. in low places). I truly believe he is that delusional and narcissistic.
The established GOP may try a prop up a more "respectable" candidate.
I do not think this very public and messy split between the GOP far right ( the batshit crazies ) and the more moderate center right ( the garden variety crazies) is over. Not by a long shot.

I could see him try to run again. The problem is, much of his base might not survive either.

And maybe that's what all this nonsense is about to begin with, maybe he DGAF because this is his final hurrah.

...that the Republicans would let him run a second time. They will IMHO make some rule requiring candidates to serve for four years in some sort of high elected office as an elected republican. The RNC will have plenty of egg on their faces from this, and they are not completely stupid.

of the FIRST term. Republicans are very practiced at impeachment and that will happen to trump early on and thme Pence will be President. Ready for what would have been a Trump second term.

I can't imagine he will be given a pass on that. Bernie was hammered for being an old man, and he is in far better health.

Trump will be 74.
I don't think Trump wants to be President. He just loves those cheering crowds. And he wants to beat HRC (and everybody else).
I'm not sure a lot of Trump's followers will even vote this time. They seem caught up the momentum, but I doubt they are in it for the long haul.
The GOP, if they have any sense, will fight Trump tooth and nail.

That being said, the GOP has some major re-charging to do.

nt

He needs to be so thoroughly crushed on November 8th that he never leaves Trump Tower ever again. Blech.

Given how far the Republican Party has fallen, methinks it will be Ted Nugent, with David Duke as the VP. At the convention, Ann Coulter, clad only in leather riding chaps, will have both Chris Christie and Ted Cruz led around crawling on a chain leash with ball gags in their mouths....and then the whole damn thing will get more bizarre from there. It is the only way they will be able to top 2016.

healthy last night. Physically or Mentally. More fast food for the Con Man!

I think the stress is going to do him in.

Donald's campaign. And she was from the not-so-distant Bush generation of GOPers. So they have noticed the takeover of their own party by these cheap trolls.

I've been saying it many times, but this Trump campaign is straight out of Drudge Report. He is intellectually incapable of extending his talking points outside what the RW internet trolls pass off as "issues". His debate prep only extended to the headlines at Drudge. We'll see if the trolls take over completely. For Donald, it's win/win because he's not a serious person. It's just ratings bling for him, you are right. He is punking us all now.

at the worst.

He's an easy mark

but you never know, Trump has done and said so many crazy things you'd roll your eyes if it were fiction

Donald Jr got a taste of the political limelight at the convention, so he might try for President or NY Mayor, which I think he has talked about. His Twitter will come back to bite him though.

He won't want to put himself through this again.

Yeah, I'm sure on November 9th screaming about how the election was totally rigged against him, and he'll threaten to sue all and sundry about it, but since he will (I hope) lose big, preferably by double digits, even Karl Rove will tell him to cool it.

He'll go back to scamming banks and investors, stiffing suppliers, and maybe answering a few subpoenas over some of the illegal things he's done. It would be nice if he'd be in jail in 2020, but I don't expect that will happen.

I agree that the 2020 nominee is somewhat more likely to be someone not currently on the national scene.

In their infinite lack of wisdom, the mantra the GOP base will adopt when they lose this November is: "we need a true conservative!"

And since that can only mean the most famous, vocal, hateful, bloviating, yet consistent fascist, the obvious choice would be Morphine Rush.

She will be term-limited by then, so nowhere to go in South Carolina,
Indian descent female, center-right (at least since Charleston 9, close friends with the deceased pastor),
Only 48 years old, and still attractive physically, and
The establishment wants to win and counter Clinton 45.

How can there ever be another "gate" after that one?

I seriously think he's going to be left divorced, in heaps of debt, business failing, and in legal trouble.

He's not a healthy man.

By 2020 Trump will be a respected elder statesman in kookoo Republican circles

I agree, except I have to hope that they are smarter than this. Usually losers are shuffled off to some dusty corner and not heard from much any more. One can only hope.

If you look at the past republican losers the republican base sticks to the candidate like glue until they lose. Republicans have no stomach for a perceived loser and shuns them. None of them have retained any real influence after the loss. I believe it will be even worse for Trump as he has pit them in a terrible position going forward.

for teh lulz - and so I can say I was right here with him when he's right.

I don't know why but I think he'll show strong signs of Alzheimer's by then or will have a stroke or something.

..... regression towards the mean. As if they were not already regressive and mean enough.

To ensure the next nominee is "acceptable".

I'd put my bet on Ryan, but of course the "smart money" all had scott walker this year, so who knows.

Let us also not forget that pretty much everybody knows just how much of an asshole the Donald really is. And considering that he's being charged with numerous offences, he'll be in too much legal trouble to be able to run again. I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up in jail when all is said and done.

I'm sure that someone else would be more than happy to fill the role of a fascist candidate in 2020, though. Perhaps David Duke?

They'll either give themselves veto power over primary results, change their eligibility requirements somehow, or they'll do something to minimize the spoiler effect that kept him in the race early on (or they'll make some other rule change that I can't think of).

The Orange Buffoon will go financially bankrupt and could not afford to mount a campaign. Knowing his tendency to skip out of his bills, no political strategist will work for him. Where will he get any money from? His Army of Deplorables can't afford to put his name on the trailer park clubhouse, much less a golf course or casino. He will be all washed up before 2018, spending all his time defending rape lawsuits.

He has been trying to establish the full time right-wing network since he originally proposed that to Reagan. Sure, Limbaugh was influential, but it really was Faux that enabled people like Palin and Trump.

And I think we can see that Faux isn't exactly the same outfit it was before Ailes was booted. I would not be surprised to find Faux try to pull back because surely everybody now understands what a mess Ailes created for everybody.

Look for the GOP to try to come up with some rules that make it harder for wackos to take over. I'm not sure exactly how they can do that, but they will have a couple of years to work on that.

Trump is already too old and senile for the job. He will not be in the running 4 years from now. And I don't believe Pence comes out ahead either. I think it is more likely to be somebody like Ryan.

1) He doesn't want to be president in the first place. He only ran because he's an attention whore. He never thought he'd actually win the nomination.

2) He's not in great health. He's old and obese. All that sniffing seems to indicate some sort of breathing problem.

3) Hopefully, karma will catch up with the shitbag and he'll actually go to prison for all the people he's ripped off.

That's why the rank and file is so nasty towards Romney and McCain.

he is going to be a folk hero to the Rush Limbaugh Republicans.