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question everything

(47,535 posts)
Sat Oct 15, 2016, 12:19 AM Oct 2016

Just curious: why do people even keep all their emails

unless they have to.

Apparently there is an email about Hillary's 2008 campaign about Catholics. Or about Obama's "roots." Why were they, and others, never deleted once the elections were over?

And the DNC had some suggestions about Sanders. After Hillary won the nomination, why were these emails still there?

Back in the 80s, before the Internet was a household name, we had an email system in the corporation. And even then the legal person warned us to think of what we put there since at some point they could be subjected to subpoenas. The corporation was always involved in patents and property rights.

Even today, a former employer, once every six months - I think - would issue a directive for everyone to purge their emails.

I know that after the shooting in San Bernardino there was the debate about the security of the smartphones but, in reality, we should all realize that whatever we put "in the ether" at some point can be viewed by others.




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JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,367 posts)
12. Yes. This is my big reason for keeping email.
Sat Oct 15, 2016, 10:04 AM
Oct 2016

I sometimes remember a conversation that's relevant to some current issue. A search will let me know when it happened, who was involved, who actually fixed the problem or what was ordered and when, etc.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,858 posts)
5. Because it's legally required.
Sat Oct 15, 2016, 12:37 AM
Oct 2016
https://www.intradyn.com/email-retention-laws/

As for individuals, it's usually just because of sloth. I have a ton of old emails I've never got around to deleting.

question everything

(47,535 posts)
14. Thank you. This links talks about offical business for government agencies and business
Sat Oct 15, 2016, 11:57 AM
Oct 2016

but for Hillary's 2008 campaign, especially since she was not elected? Or DNC?

SeattleVet

(5,479 posts)
6. When I worked for/with (USAF & contractor) the government, it was drilled into us...
Sat Oct 15, 2016, 12:39 AM
Oct 2016

don't put anything in an unencrypted email that you wouldn't put onto a postcard.

Even if *you* have deleted an email, it's no guarantee that it was not retained on any of the intermediate servers it passed through on the way to its destination.

(Government emails have very specific retention requirements; most are considered to be official communications, and must be archived as public records.)

 

semby2

(246 posts)
7. email
Sat Oct 15, 2016, 12:44 AM
Oct 2016

I don't think you understand how email works. Copies of the email get stored on other computers. And as others have said, there are legal requirements.

question everything

(47,535 posts)
17. Obviously, not much
Sat Oct 15, 2016, 08:38 PM
Oct 2016

What I wonder, if people really want to keep their email for future references, if they can be transferred to an external drive what will be disconnected at night. Will this make it harder for hackers?

Not that anyone would be interested in my emails, or financial files, but I always turn off the computer (Mac) at night, and when we are out of town I also turn off the modem.

(Though I've read someplace that it is better for the longevity of the computer to keep it at a sleep mode..)

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
8. In many organizations, including government
Sat Oct 15, 2016, 02:39 AM
Oct 2016

All server transactions are backed up at least once a day, maybe more, to recover data if there's a system crash. Backed up data is archived in special fire proof, water proof facilities. Plus even though you delete your emails and documents from your computer, you're not really deleting the message. You're only erasing the data's address on your hard drive. The data is still there and can be recovered with recovery software.

4lbs

(6,865 posts)
9. I've kept nearly all my emails that I have ever written or received.
Sat Oct 15, 2016, 02:43 AM
Oct 2016

Since they take up little space, relatively speaking, I never delete emails.

I have emails dating back to 1995.

Why do I have them?

Sometimes I want to comment about a situation or project I was involved in, in my history, and doing a simple email search helps me find more detailed information about it than I could remember.

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
10. I have emails from '97...
Sat Oct 15, 2016, 02:54 AM
Oct 2016

...I keep them because they are meaningful.

What is actually sad is that 1) we have lost all historical evidence of what Clinton said to her family during her tenure as Sec of State (though it may be reconstructed from looking at the email folders of each of her recipients) and 2) we are so fascinated with looking at what the people behind the scenes in Clinton's circles discussed.

And what's even sadder is that despite we've seen literally tens of thousands of emails of Clinton's inner circles, and even with that, nothing, absolutely nothing has come out that's remotely bad, the Clinton's are still seen as corrupt.

Yo_Mama

(8,303 posts)
11. Businesses can't simply purge all their emails any more.
Sat Oct 15, 2016, 09:56 AM
Oct 2016

There is a legal record-keeping requirement. If they do fail to preserve them, it can serve as evidence against them in a legal proceeding.

Likewise, Hillary Clinton had a legal obligation to preserve her office-related records and communications, regardless of whether they were on a private system or not.

Public officials and businesses generally HAVE to keep records.

question everything

(47,535 posts)
13. I understand the requirments for business and government agencies
Sat Oct 15, 2016, 11:55 AM
Oct 2016

but for election campaigns? Like Hillary's 2008 and the DNC, that I mentioned in my op?

Yo_Mama

(8,303 posts)
15. To the extent that it relates to exchange of money, they probably should preserve them
Sat Oct 15, 2016, 07:48 PM
Oct 2016

There's an awful lot of business involved in political campaigns.

For the rest, when you delete your emails, the chances that they are out there in someone else's emails are very good. Just because you can't see your emails doesn't mean someone else can't find them!!!

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