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MMTampa

(82 posts)
Mon Oct 17, 2016, 08:20 PM Oct 2016

Patrick Murphy just beat Rubio. . .

Patrick Murphy just mopped the debate stage with Marco Rubio. He consistently linked Rubio to Trump, consistently pointed out that Rubio is only after this job till something higher up comes along and consistently hammered home Rubio's poor record in the Florida and US Senate. Rubio was sweating profusely and stammering. Rubio was more collected in his famous "water bottle" response to the State of the Union address.
Murphy is leading in some polls but I hope this puts him over on "November 28th".

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Patrick Murphy just beat Rubio. . . (Original Post) MMTampa Oct 2016 OP
LOL! chillfactor Oct 2016 #1
He sure tied him to Groper Don the Con malaise Oct 2016 #2
I think thats a nationwide strategy ErikJ Oct 2016 #14
Every GOP candidate should be paired with a picture of Trump in political ads. keithbvadu2 Oct 2016 #45
Gropin-Fuehrer. ChairmanAgnostic Oct 2016 #21
Murphy hasn't led in any polls since June TSIAS Oct 2016 #3
This race is still not decided, 13% undecided. GOTV matters a lot here. Coyotl Oct 2016 #4
Floridians are apparently content with having a lazy senator who hates his job. BlueStater Oct 2016 #5
Not just Floridians. The same can be said ... paleotn Oct 2016 #8
Hopefully, after the election, Little Marco ... Martin Eden Oct 2016 #6
Hope the Cuban Americans who abandon Trump will abandon Rubio downballot Fahrenthold451 Oct 2016 #7
Poor little Marco! imanamerican63 Oct 2016 #9
I want to believe! Divine Discontent Oct 2016 #10
I'll drink to that! dae Oct 2016 #27
Murphy hit him right between the eyes. ffr Oct 2016 #39
Yep, it's so obvious he just wants somewhere to receive a fat paycheck until he runs again in 3 yrs Divine Discontent Oct 2016 #46
Little Marco has a Sad jpak Oct 2016 #11
Don't count on Florida superpatriotman Oct 2016 #12
A girl can dream mountain grammy Oct 2016 #13
lol... aint that the truth! Divine Discontent Oct 2016 #15
Good luck mountain grammy Oct 2016 #20
GL! You all might just pull that off. Divine Discontent Oct 2016 #24
I still can't believe Scott got reelected. ohnoyoudidnt Oct 2016 #19
Yeah, if the governor's race was during O's election we'd have seen FL elect Alex Sink, Divine Discontent Oct 2016 #25
Midterms destroy over governorship numbers Awsi Dooger Oct 2016 #32
dang... hoping though somehow Murphy scrapes by a victory over him, and yes, Divine Discontent Oct 2016 #33
Rubio is just about as bad a senator as you can get. BlueStater Oct 2016 #34
One things for sure yeoman6987 Oct 2016 #16
I don't like Rubio or his politics, but he seems to follow his claim to be more issues oriented Divine Discontent Oct 2016 #17
Yeah he's ver obvious. Voters see through him easily yeoman6987 Oct 2016 #18
Please God, House and Senate! House and Senate! House and Senate! House and Senate! N/T Upthevibe Oct 2016 #22
+1 Divine Discontent Oct 2016 #23
+1 more ColemanMaskell Oct 2016 #28
and I believe in voting early and often, so +1 more! LOL Divine Discontent Oct 2016 #29
Florida has a history of kicking out one term Senators JCMach1 Oct 2016 #26
Murphy needs to pull a rabbit out of the hat Gman Oct 2016 #30
K & R SunSeeker Oct 2016 #31
That would be a nice early Christmas present HAB911 Oct 2016 #35
Dem party is not supporting Murphy in No. Fl. lark Oct 2016 #37
K&R ffr Oct 2016 #38
faantastico! flamingdem Oct 2016 #40
I liked the post but confused about November 28th Angry Dragon Oct 2016 #41
So is Mr. Trump MMTampa Oct 2016 #43
perhaps there are elections in Russia on that date Angry Dragon Oct 2016 #44
I got to be rec #200 in a greatest post 2 days in a row! Dem2 Oct 2016 #42
It's not looking good but I'm trying to be optimistic. BlueStater Oct 2016 #47

TSIAS

(14,689 posts)
3. Murphy hasn't led in any polls since June
Mon Oct 17, 2016, 08:24 PM
Oct 2016
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/senate/fl/florida_senate_rubio_vs_murphy-5222.html

I already voted for Murphy in Florida. I hope he is able to pull it out if the bottom completely falls out for Trump in FL. But the reality is that Democrats have decided that their money is better spent in a place like North Carolina, rather than FL.

BlueStater

(7,596 posts)
5. Floridians are apparently content with having a lazy senator who hates his job.
Mon Oct 17, 2016, 08:30 PM
Oct 2016

And who gets a paycheck from hard-working taxpayers for doing nothing.

paleotn

(17,989 posts)
8. Not just Floridians. The same can be said ...
Mon Oct 17, 2016, 08:42 PM
Oct 2016

...for most of the House and a little over half the Senate.

Fahrenthold451

(436 posts)
7. Hope the Cuban Americans who abandon Trump will abandon Rubio downballot
Mon Oct 17, 2016, 08:40 PM
Oct 2016

But that being said that polling looks a lot like Trump v HRC (party reversed)

Divine Discontent

(21,056 posts)
10. I want to believe!
Mon Oct 17, 2016, 08:48 PM
Oct 2016

I hope that what you said comes to pass and it will sway enough voters! I can't stand Marco!





ffr

(22,672 posts)
39. Murphy hit him right between the eyes.
Tue Oct 18, 2016, 11:59 AM
Oct 2016

Marco just doesn't have anywhere else to go after his senatorial free ride. He's literally asking for another 6 years of government welfare.

Divine Discontent

(21,056 posts)
46. Yep, it's so obvious he just wants somewhere to receive a fat paycheck until he runs again in 3 yrs
Tue Oct 18, 2016, 07:56 PM
Oct 2016

I hope FL shocks him

Divine Discontent

(21,056 posts)
15. lol... aint that the truth!
Mon Oct 17, 2016, 09:01 PM
Oct 2016

lot's of bad from FL since the late 90s.

Outside of Obama winning there, and Nelson holding on as Senator, it's been awful for Dems. We've lost senate and governor races by small margins (Alex Sink losing to Rick Scott still burns, as it was so close) that let you know had the GOP folks who run the state hadn't screwed with tossing people off the voter roles, and other election fiasco, that the outcome would be different.

Also, FL voted against gay rights in 2008 (only 57% of Obama supporters voted against Amm. 2, and 19% of McCain).

So, it's high time this Dem voter increase in the state result in some real changes in statewide races!

ohnoyoudidnt

(1,858 posts)
19. I still can't believe Scott got reelected.
Mon Oct 17, 2016, 09:16 PM
Oct 2016

But we did go for Obama twice. Hopefully, enough voters wil turn out for Hillary and vote the down ticket races. Medical marijuana is also on the ballot. That could also help.

Divine Discontent

(21,056 posts)
25. Yeah, if the governor's race was during O's election we'd have seen FL elect Alex Sink,
Mon Oct 17, 2016, 09:41 PM
Oct 2016

sadly, her contest was in 2010, and she narrowly lost to him. Stunning really that he could be elected, but that's what happens when people don't go to the polls, because all the rightwingers sure as heck do every time.

 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
32. Midterms destroy over governorship numbers
Tue Oct 18, 2016, 01:15 AM
Oct 2016

Two-thirds of governorships are decided in midterm years. Single females don't show up in midterms. That kills our chances. Females are 54% of the electorate in presidential years but only 51% in midterms. I don't see any foreseeable change, not unless a wildly unpopular Republican is president.

Rick Scott never would have won, without the nationwide tilt favoring his side both times. His margins were well inside the slant. Alex Sink was particularly devastating. She had the late controversy when an aide may have given her advice via cell phone during a CNN debate. Even if it didn't happen or wasn't much, it allowed Scott to be on the offensive in the final days. I'm still sick about it.

Anyway, I don't have much hope for Murphy. It feels like a 3 or 4 point defeat, simply by sampling opinion here in the Miami area. Plenty of people say they wish Rubio were atop the ticket and not Trump. One rightwing house down the street has its front yard plastered with Rubio signs, left over from the primaries. Nothing about Trump.

Hillary would probably have to win this state by 6 or 8 points to drag Murphy along with her.

Divine Discontent

(21,056 posts)
33. dang... hoping though somehow Murphy scrapes by a victory over him, and yes,
Tue Oct 18, 2016, 01:22 AM
Oct 2016

I always call that supposed controversy over her young aide trying to help her in the debate such utter BS! To have her do so well against him and lose out just barely to skeletor was my most heartbreaking loss for a non-presidential candidate I tried to actively help. We were SO glum at our county HQ. Scott has been awful, of course. It's like no matter how low some of the GOP candidates rating are they still get elected or re-elected.

I had no idea single women saw their participation drop off so much in midterms. Dang. I know it's low most of the time for young people.

BlueStater

(7,596 posts)
34. Rubio is just about as bad a senator as you can get.
Tue Oct 18, 2016, 03:31 AM
Oct 2016

He doesn't show up for work. He openly admitted he doesn't like his job. After denying he would run for the senate again about a billion times, he went pack on his word. He's a homophobe. His position on abortion is extreme even by Republican standards. He's a man-made climate change denier. He wanted to lead this country but he's such a goddamn coward that he can't even stand up to the racist psychopath currently running as his party's presidential nominee.

It's incredible that someone as terrible as him stands a good chance of being reelected. I'll never understand what's wrong with the fucking voters in this country. Pitiful.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
16. One things for sure
Mon Oct 17, 2016, 09:06 PM
Oct 2016

That debate was better then the presidential debates. This was an issue debate completely. How refreshing.

Divine Discontent

(21,056 posts)
17. I don't like Rubio or his politics, but he seems to follow his claim to be more issues oriented
Mon Oct 17, 2016, 09:10 PM
Oct 2016

and not be Trump-like. The problem is, he's a weasel about standing up to Trump and won't disavow his support for him. HOPEFULLY, voters, women especially, will reject him for standing by Donald's side despite all he's said, and how Donald's insulted his accuser's looks.

Also, Marco went back on his word to run, because he knows he needs to be in elected office to make a real run at the White House in 2 and half years. Not that he'd actually show up that much if re-elected... geesh!!!

Divine Discontent

(21,056 posts)
29. and I believe in voting early and often, so +1 more! LOL
Mon Oct 17, 2016, 09:54 PM
Oct 2016

And, really, I hope Hillary appears with Murphy the night before the election in Florida in Miami and Orlando to help GOTV for her and him.

How SWEET it'd be to see Marco choose to not run, then get back into it because of the GOP saying if he wants to run for President again, he better save the Senate seat --- and he loses 50-49!

JCMach1

(27,574 posts)
26. Florida has a history of kicking out one term Senators
Mon Oct 17, 2016, 09:48 PM
Oct 2016

Who don't do their job... Usually on the Republican side...

Gman

(24,780 posts)
30. Murphy needs to pull a rabbit out of the hat
Mon Oct 17, 2016, 10:58 PM
Oct 2016

And the sooner the better. Sounds like Murphy may be doing just that.

lark

(23,160 posts)
37. Dem party is not supporting Murphy in No. Fl.
Tue Oct 18, 2016, 11:00 AM
Oct 2016

Not one ad pro-Murphy or even anti-Rubio has been seen here. I even only saw a total of 1 spot ever even telling about the debate. so bet most people missed it. So sad, Rubio is such a ripe target and Dems here ALWAYS just roll over for the Repugs. DWS is typical in that.

BlueStater

(7,596 posts)
47. It's not looking good but I'm trying to be optimistic.
Tue Oct 18, 2016, 09:39 PM
Oct 2016

I'm hoping all the positive registration news I've been hearing in Florida will help Murphy. I can't imagine many registered Democrats that will unquestionably be voting for Hillary will also vote for lazy Marco.

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