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meadowlark5

(2,795 posts)
Tue Oct 18, 2016, 06:01 PM Oct 2016

Edited this post. It was erroneous and needs no further comment unless you really want to

Last edited Tue Oct 18, 2016, 08:54 PM - Edit history (1)

I'm willing to leave it because I'm not going to run from the bogus post that I put out there. I will accept the flogging. But I took down the subject. IT'S A FAKE STORY I KNOW AND I'M SORRY FOR POSTING IT SO SOON BEFORE IT WAS REMOVED FROM THE LINK.

Not sure exactly what the etiquette is here among the veteran DUers.

On September 28 this year a Canadian family holidaying in the Bahamas reported to the police that their 8-year-old daughter was “sexually molested online” by Assange on Toddandclare.com, including propositioning her “to perform oral and anal sex acts.” She was presumably accessing the site through her 22-year-old sister’s account. Whether these chats were recorded or not isn’t clear but the family claims they identified Assange.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/10/17/1583749/-Julian-Assange-investigated-for-online-grooming-of-8-year-old-girl

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Edited this post. It was erroneous and needs no further comment unless you really want to (Original Post) meadowlark5 Oct 2016 OP
An 8 year old used a 22 year old's access to a dating site, according to the link. Wilms Oct 2016 #1
The problem is that an 8 yr old and a 22 yr old charlyvi Oct 2016 #4
They weren't speaking. They were writing. Wilms Oct 2016 #19
An 8 yr old doesn't write like a 22 yr old. charlyvi Oct 2016 #30
allegedly Wilms Oct 2016 #36
Possible, but you'd probably be able to tell pretty early in the conversation vdogg Oct 2016 #6
I missed the part about child porn. Wilms Oct 2016 #15
How long does it take you to determine if something about sex is written by an eight year old LanternWaste Oct 2016 #9
Who said the eight year old wrote about sex? Wilms Oct 2016 #18
What a vile, disgusting POS. Tarheel_Dem Oct 2016 #2
Will his emails & chat logs be made public? misterhighwasted Oct 2016 #3
Maybe someone will hack them, then leak them to the world charlyvi Oct 2016 #5
That would be some serious justice..ha! misterhighwasted Oct 2016 #7
I think this Todd and Clare people are crazy. joshcryer Oct 2016 #8
Interesting - the link now says, "I have removed this diary pending investigation" meadowlark5 Oct 2016 #10
I know of the rape charge... tonedevil Oct 2016 #11
None. ChairmanAgnostic Oct 2016 #13
Oops. I saw molestation and that usually goes with child so I misspoke. meadowlark5 Oct 2016 #14
I guess you are as careful as the Kos "Diary-est" Wilms Oct 2016 #17
Do you want me to delete the thead? Would that make you happy? meadowlark5 Oct 2016 #22
Yeah, sure. They just add, "quite the pedophile". Wilms Oct 2016 #25
I said I misspoke. Was that apology too Donald Trumpish for you meadowlark5 Oct 2016 #26
I think it should stand as a lesson to all Wilms Oct 2016 #29
Does anyone here recall what happened to Scott Ritter? Do you ever wonder who set him up and why? Ford_Prefect Oct 2016 #12
What happened to Scott Ritter is that he wasn't squeaky-clean struggle4progress Oct 2016 #20
Or they may invent or elaborate... Ford_Prefect Oct 2016 #24
... Ritter was .. arrested in June 2001 in connection with police stings struggle4progress Oct 2016 #27
I'm not disputing the 2009 arrest. I am talking about the time frame of the 2001 charges. Ford_Prefect Oct 2016 #31
Four times? He was set up four times? Come on!!! Nt msanthrope Oct 2016 #37
Being Scott Ritter'ed? davidn3600 Oct 2016 #21
This story seems fake to me. Else You Are Mad Oct 2016 #28
Oh for fucks sake. Do any of you really believe Julian Assange, Julian FUCKING Assange, yodermon Oct 2016 #32
Lol. Word. Nt B2G Oct 2016 #33
agreed Skittles Oct 2016 #34
This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Oct 2016 #39
internet enid602 Oct 2016 #35
OK---I said I misspoke and acknowledge it. WHAT DO YOU WANT ME TO DO WITH THE THREAD???? meadowlark5 Oct 2016 #38
. Wilms Oct 2016 #40
Thank you sir, may I have another? meadowlark5 Oct 2016 #41
. Wilms Oct 2016 #42
 

Wilms

(26,795 posts)
1. An 8 year old used a 22 year old's access to a dating site, according to the link.
Tue Oct 18, 2016, 06:05 PM
Oct 2016

Is it possible Assange thought he was dealing with a 22 year old?

charlyvi

(6,537 posts)
4. The problem is that an 8 yr old and a 22 yr old
Tue Oct 18, 2016, 06:14 PM
Oct 2016

do not speak the same way, especially about anal or oral sex. I can't fathom how the man would not know he was chatting with a child, no matter how precocious the child may be.

 

Wilms

(26,795 posts)
19. They weren't speaking. They were writing.
Tue Oct 18, 2016, 07:22 PM
Oct 2016

Did the child write about sex? How did you come up with that?

charlyvi

(6,537 posts)
30. An 8 yr old doesn't write like a 22 yr old.
Tue Oct 18, 2016, 07:58 PM
Oct 2016

Same reasoning applies. I was not precise in what I meant about an 8 yr old talking about sex. Of course they wouldn't talk about sex, at least in a way that we would recognize. But he was "grooming" her, allegedly, so I assume he was communicating with her in some way concerning sex.

vdogg

(1,384 posts)
6. Possible, but you'd probably be able to tell pretty early in the conversation
Tue Oct 18, 2016, 06:16 PM
Oct 2016

That you're talking to an 8 year old. I won't rule it out, but it also said that he sent child pornagraphy to her, which would be a different matter.

 

Wilms

(26,795 posts)
15. I missed the part about child porn.
Tue Oct 18, 2016, 07:12 PM
Oct 2016

I went back to the link to check that and found this:

I have removed this diary pending investigation.


Why did I even bother responding to a Kos "diary"?
 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
9. How long does it take you to determine if something about sex is written by an eight year old
Tue Oct 18, 2016, 06:56 PM
Oct 2016

How long does it take you to determine if something about sex is written by an eight year old versus that of a 22 year old? Longer than 30 seconds and remedial courses may be in store...

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
3. Will his emails & chat logs be made public?
Tue Oct 18, 2016, 06:09 PM
Oct 2016

The tables of justice keep turning. Righteous conclusion to the world wide leaker..wow!

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
8. I think this Todd and Clare people are crazy.
Tue Oct 18, 2016, 06:53 PM
Oct 2016

Unless they can release transcripts and pictures or logs then I'm ever more skeptical.

meadowlark5

(2,795 posts)
10. Interesting - the link now says, "I have removed this diary pending investigation"
Tue Oct 18, 2016, 06:57 PM
Oct 2016

So maybe it's a bunch of bunk. Though Assange is accused in Sweden of rape and child molestation so who knows.

 

tonedevil

(3,022 posts)
11. I know of the rape charge...
Tue Oct 18, 2016, 07:03 PM
Oct 2016

I am not at all aware of any child molestation he has been accused of. Do you have a link?

meadowlark5

(2,795 posts)
14. Oops. I saw molestation and that usually goes with child so I misspoke.
Tue Oct 18, 2016, 07:11 PM
Oct 2016

Here is a link of the accusations. There are apparently 2 women.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-19426382

meadowlark5

(2,795 posts)
22. Do you want me to delete the thead? Would that make you happy?
Tue Oct 18, 2016, 07:35 PM
Oct 2016

Members share links and articles here all of the time and I don't see them going beyond the article trying to substantiate it.

 

Wilms

(26,795 posts)
25. Yeah, sure. They just add, "quite the pedophile".
Tue Oct 18, 2016, 07:39 PM
Oct 2016

Own it, Meadowlark.

And don't talk smack about the MANY current (OK, I guess many former) DUers who are very responsible posters. This is more of the kind of sloppiness I would enjoy if I had a reason to be belong to freeperville.

meadowlark5

(2,795 posts)
26. I said I misspoke. Was that apology too Donald Trumpish for you
Tue Oct 18, 2016, 07:44 PM
Oct 2016

Oh wilms, please forgive me for accusing a scum like Assange of being a pedophile. I'm soo sorry

Better or do you still want it deleted?

 

Wilms

(26,795 posts)
29. I think it should stand as a lesson to all
Tue Oct 18, 2016, 07:48 PM
Oct 2016

In the heat of the argument, we tend to hear and believe what we want, rather than verify.

Never mind what you posted. Look at some of the knee-jerk replies. You get that logic-level at freeperville.

Look, that you checked and reconsidered and said oops was the right thing to do.

struggle4progress

(118,356 posts)
20. What happened to Scott Ritter is that he wasn't squeaky-clean
Tue Oct 18, 2016, 07:26 PM
Oct 2016

when he went after the foreign policies of jack-asses

He wasn't set up: he made powerful enemies, who then located the Archilles' heel

That's nothing new or unexpected: when you're an effective opponent, people will start taking a good hard look at you -- and when there's something to find, somebody may indeed find it



struggle4progress

(118,356 posts)
27. ... Ritter was .. arrested in June 2001 in connection with police stings
Tue Oct 18, 2016, 07:45 PM
Oct 2016

in which officers posed as under-aged girls to arrange meetings of a sexual nature. The first incident did not lead to any charges. He was charged with a misdemeanor crime of "attempted endangerment of the welfare of a child" after the second, but charges were dropped after he completed six months of probation and the record was sealed on condition that he avoid further trouble for a period of time ...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Ritter#Arrests_and_conviction

"I was set up!" is less credible when one has prior history of such behavior

Ford_Prefect

(7,921 posts)
31. I'm not disputing the 2009 arrest. I am talking about the time frame of the 2001 charges.
Tue Oct 18, 2016, 08:05 PM
Oct 2016

Ritter had a very high security clearance for quite a long time which means people watched everything he did online, or anywhere else. Look at his prior assignments.

If this had happened to him 3 years after he had disagreed for months with the purported existence of Iraqi WMD's based on his personal experience in the field no one would have thought more about it. Sexual predators don't just flip a switch one day and decide to predate. They have a long behavioral history. Certainly if Ritter had a past "they" knew of it long before he was arrested in 2001.

 

davidn3600

(6,342 posts)
21. Being Scott Ritter'ed?
Tue Oct 18, 2016, 07:30 PM
Oct 2016

Still don't see much of a source. No legit media is reporting this.

Even the person who posted this on Daily Kos removed it.

Else You Are Mad

(3,040 posts)
28. This story seems fake to me.
Tue Oct 18, 2016, 07:47 PM
Oct 2016

I am no fan of Assange, but to make such claims with proof that is questionable at best is wrong. Until actual proof comes out, judgment should be withheld. I think that someone with a grudge against Assange is trying to smear him.

yodermon

(6,143 posts)
32. Oh for fucks sake. Do any of you really believe Julian Assange, Julian FUCKING Assange,
Tue Oct 18, 2016, 08:10 PM
Oct 2016

would do anything so obviously, irresponsibly, amateurishly, transparently STUPID?
Rilly?
The guy who's wanted by the US Government, so paranoid that the has submitted himself to voluntary house arrest for 4 years, and has gigabytes of "dead man's switch" encrypted insurance files torrented all over the internet, one day just says "fuck it all, ima go full bore pedo and stream myself nekkid online to a kid, that'll show em!"

wtf, over.

DU has become so credulous it's embarrassing. Please send me your bank account numbers, i've got a great angle on cattle futures for ya'll.

Response to yodermon (Reply #32)

meadowlark5

(2,795 posts)
38. OK---I said I misspoke and acknowledge it. WHAT DO YOU WANT ME TO DO WITH THE THREAD????
Tue Oct 18, 2016, 08:49 PM
Oct 2016

I'm willing to leave it because I'm not going to run from the bogus post that I put out there. I will accept the flogging. But if it's going to cause upset I'll get rid of it? Do you want me to edit it or delete the content of the OP?

Not sure exactly what the etiquette is here among the veteran DUers.

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