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Saviolo

(3,282 posts)
Wed Oct 19, 2016, 09:49 AM Oct 2016

From Conde Nast Traveler: TSA May Start Securing Trains, Buses, and Ferries

The article:

Taking a bus, a train, or a ferry has long offered a level of convenience that air travel can’t. Arrive two hours before a domestic flight, and it can still be a stretch making it before the gate closes; show up at New York's Penn Station 15 minutes before your departure time (to minimize how long you have to stay in that dystopian nightmare of a building), and you’ll have enough time left over to grab a slice. That ease of travel that we gain from not having the intense—and, at times, bafflingly inefficient—TSA oversight found in airports may soon be a thing of the past, though, as a new bill making its way through Congress seeks to expand TSA’s reach onto buses, trains, and ferries, known collectively as surface transportation.

The bipartisan bill introduced last week by Senator John Thune (R-SD) and Bill Nelson (D-FL) would require that the TSA assess terrorism risk at all surface transportation facilities—bus depots, train stations, ports—and implement new security models based on those risks. According to website The Hill, the lawmakers cited concerns about whether the TSA is adequately identifying security risks in non-airport transport hubs. According to a report from the Office of Inspector General, the agency is not. Last year, 80 percent of the TSA's $7.4 billion budget was spent at airports, while only two percent went to surface-level transportation. “TSA lacks an intelligence-driven, risk-based security strategy that informs security and resource decisions across all transportation modes,” reads the report, observing a security approach “designed for the aviation mode and chiefly for air passenger screening.” Thune, Nelson, and co. want to change this with legislation that would see train operators gaining access to TSA’s terrorist watch list, more rigorous screening of passengers and employees, and an uptick in TSA canine units at stations and ports.


From Conde Nast here: http://www.cntraveler.com/story/tsa-may-start-securing-trains-buses-and-ferries

Looks like the TSA is looking to expand its security theatre into ground transportation in the USA. Right now they're only talking about watch lists and "an uptick in TSA canine units at stations and ports" but also "more rigorous screening of passengers and employees." Travel within the USA is turning into a very "Papers, please" sort of experience.
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From Conde Nast Traveler: TSA May Start Securing Trains, Buses, and Ferries (Original Post) Saviolo Oct 2016 OP
Another reason the anti-car fringe here are way off base. whatthehey Oct 2016 #1
Horrible idea. k&r, nt appal_jack Oct 2016 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author kestrel91316 Oct 2016 #3
It may be the worst case of mission creep ever. Saviolo Oct 2016 #4
IKR, this isn't air travel where people are willing to alot an extra 2 hours for travel KittyWampus Oct 2016 #6
Hopefully the Left will be able to fight this w/Libertarians. KittyWampus Oct 2016 #5
Remind me again how many trains, busses, and ferries PoindexterOglethorpe Oct 2016 #7

Response to Saviolo (Original post)

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
6. IKR, this isn't air travel where people are willing to alot an extra 2 hours for travel
Wed Oct 19, 2016, 11:11 AM
Oct 2016

Trains are people going to and from work every day with little time to spare in their busy lives.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
5. Hopefully the Left will be able to fight this w/Libertarians.
Wed Oct 19, 2016, 11:09 AM
Oct 2016

It SCREAMS boondoggle and inefficiency.

Money will stream into private contractors with minimal impact and maximum inconvenience for public.

Penn Station has so many people moving through it, it just doesn't seem feasible.

And the SUBWAY AND BUSES?

These are people going to and from work. On a schedule. Not vacationers going to relax somewhere.

Or will we have to "register" and be deemed safe by Big Government and carry around another form of id?

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,857 posts)
7. Remind me again how many trains, busses, and ferries
Wed Oct 19, 2016, 11:12 AM
Oct 2016

have been hijacked or bombed in this country.

So many!

Frankly, this sounds more like an attempt on the part of whoever runs that agency to vastly increase their budget and influence.

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