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Hannahcares

(118 posts) Wed Oct 19, 2016, 04:28 PM Oct 2016

Could Electronic Voting Machine Software Be Programmed to Alter the Outcome of an Election?

Please read the linked article on voting machine vulnerabilities. So important to GOTV to overcome possible corrupted code that can switch 1-2% or more of the votes cast. Especially worried about down
ballot senate races which may be closer than the presidential race. Peace from long-time verified voting advocate, Hannah[link:http://votingmachines.procon.org/view.answers.php?questionID=000270|

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Could Electronic Voting Machine Software Be Programmed to Alter the Outcome of an Election? (Original Post) Hannahcares Oct 2016 OP

Absolutely, yes TXCritter Oct 2016 #1

I agree ............... Minnesota has a paper trial Angry Dragon Oct 2016 #2

+1 Old Vet Oct 2016 #4

Absolutely! True_Blue Oct 2016 #6

That's to prevent vote selling, which was common for a long time. hedda_foil Oct 2016 #11

The receipt may not represent how your vote is actually registered in the "black box". davepdx Oct 2016 #13

We know it has occurred in prior elections. Yes, that is exactly why misterhighwasted Oct 2016 #3

No, we don't know... brooklynite Oct 2016 #5

Not saying a candidate has lost because of it. Just that the vote flipping has occurred. misterhighwasted Oct 2016 #7

Question was, Could there be problems with electronic tampering? Old Vet Oct 2016 #9

Aha! Yes. I have a working theory that donplorable is acting the way his is fob Oct 2016 #8

DIEBOLD yortsed snacilbuper Oct 2016 #10

Company all but bragged they could help Bush in 2000. Panich52 Oct 2016 #14

18181818. Wasn't that the tally in each district for Senator Max Cleland when he lost? Hekate Oct 2016 #12

Found under "Latest..." (electronic 'glitches' in IN) Panich52 Oct 2016 #15

If they can make a 1 to 2 percent switch mythology Oct 2016 #16

TXCritter

(344 posts)

1. Absolutely, yes

Reply to Hannahcares (Original post)

Wed Oct 19, 2016, 04:31 PM

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That's why we need machines with PAPER TRAILS. These machines are entirely unauditable. Recounts become pointless.

Angry Dragon

(36,693 posts)

2. I agree ............... Minnesota has a paper trial

Reply to TXCritter (Reply #1)

Wed Oct 19, 2016, 04:35 PM

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Old Vet

(2,001 posts)

4. +1

Reply to TXCritter (Reply #1)

Wed Oct 19, 2016, 04:37 PM

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True_Blue

(3,063 posts)

6. Absolutely!

Reply to TXCritter (Reply #1)

Wed Oct 19, 2016, 04:39 PM

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Why can't they give us a receipt like the grocery stores do? That way if there's an error you can notify someone right away and get it corrected.

hedda_foil

(16,374 posts)

11. That's to prevent vote selling, which was common for a long time.

Reply to True_Blue (Reply #6)

Wed Oct 19, 2016, 05:15 PM

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davepdx

(224 posts)

13. The receipt may not represent how your vote is actually registered in the "black box".

Reply to True_Blue (Reply #6)

Wed Oct 19, 2016, 05:22 PM

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Without a paper ballot there is no way to audit the voting machine or recount individual votes.

Edited to add: "the voting machine"

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)

3. We know it has occurred in prior elections. Yes, that is exactly why

Reply to Hannahcares (Original post)

Wed Oct 19, 2016, 04:35 PM

Oct 2016

..the margins need to exceed expectations.
I believe Dems will carry more votes than polls tell us today. We do all we can to GOTV.

brooklynite

(94,572 posts)

5. No, we don't know...

Reply to misterhighwasted (Reply #3)

Wed Oct 19, 2016, 04:38 PM

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No candidate, Party Leader or Campaign Manager says they lost because of flipped votes.

Since electronic voting was introduced, Republicans have won 3 times (2004, 2010, 2014) and Democrats have won 3 times (2006, 2008 and 2012).

Concentrate on the old-fashioned ways Republicans steal elections.

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)

7. Not saying a candidate has lost because of it. Just that the vote flipping has occurred.

Reply to brooklynite (Reply #5)

Wed Oct 19, 2016, 04:43 PM

Oct 2016

Our margins need to be a greater spread to also make contesting, should Trump do so, more difficult.

Yes vote flipping has occurred. Has it caused a loss in a close race? None that I know of.

Old Vet

(2,001 posts)

9. Question was, Could there be problems with electronic tampering?

Reply to brooklynite (Reply #5)

Wed Oct 19, 2016, 04:46 PM

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Can a computer voting machine be hacked?

fob

(5,578 posts)

8. Aha! Yes. I have a working theory that donplorable is acting the way his is

Reply to Hannahcares (Original post)

Wed Oct 19, 2016, 04:44 PM

Oct 2016

because he knows russians are going to hack election for him(he has the receipt or IOU probably more likely).

After reading several posts about how he is also a major "projector", he claims YOU are probably doing what HE is DEFINITELY doing, and add in all the people who are now on record saying the election is not "rigged" and/or "can't be rigged". I see a plan.

He has election fraud, by way of russian hackers, to help him all rigged up and ready to go but with him being so far behind how's that gonna make sense. Or perhaps he figured the best way to win and obliterate dems was a 2-3pt win when trailing by 10+/-? Well, now he has credible people on all sides assuring everyone the election is NOT rigged, because dems are NOT RIGGING election, when his scheme pops into play there is a built-in defense for the what-would-then-be real/acutal RIGGING.

Here's hoping I'm completely wrong.

fob

yortsed snacilbuper

(7,939 posts)

10. DIEBOLD

Reply to Hannahcares (Original post)

Wed Oct 19, 2016, 04:54 PM

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Panich52

(5,829 posts)

14. Company all but bragged they could help Bush in 2000.

Reply to yortsed snacilbuper (Reply #10)

Wed Oct 19, 2016, 06:13 PM

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Hekate

(90,690 posts)

12. 18181818. Wasn't that the tally in each district for Senator Max Cleland when he lost?

Reply to Hannahcares (Original post)

Wed Oct 19, 2016, 05:18 PM

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We need massive turnout. Thin margins are where the really bad stuff can happen, imo.

Panich52

(5,829 posts)

15. Found under "Latest..." (electronic 'glitches' in IN)

Reply to Hannahcares (Original post)

Wed Oct 19, 2016, 06:43 PM

Oct 2016

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512523487

mythology

(9,527 posts)

16. If they can make a 1 to 2 percent switch

Reply to Hannahcares (Original post)

Wed Oct 19, 2016, 07:07 PM

Oct 2016

What would stop them from making a larger switch? That's the problem with these conspiracy theories. They rely on there being these devious masterminds who then have to be stupid about the same thing they we're smart about.

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