...between the two of them, other than by gay sex.

But the joke doesn't turn on them being both men.

to tRump bloviate, lie and insult for almost 90 minutes.

Homophobic

Please self delete your post.

That is homophobia

If Trump were female, it would work the same, changing necktie to necklace.

It can be expressed with any combination of gender, and does not turn on the fact they are both men.

(On edit: straight people have oral sex too)

Of course given how homophobic the GOP is, I don't think the original joke is good either. Whether you want to admit it or not, our society has an association with being the one on their knees in that situation as being weaker, whether that's being gay or being a woman.

There are other ways to make your point about Trump being Putin's lapdog without at the very least toeing the line of a homophobic comment.

It is homophobia, snerking at the thought of it. That is the problem.

It would've worked just as well if the punchline was "Ivanka's hair" instead of "_____'s necktie".

Don't "homosplain" to them!

I know you aren't GLBT, but an ally. There are more than a few that still think things like this are funny. There is a time and a place. Is it as horrible as tying us to a fence to die? Of course not, but it is one of those little "paper cuts" that so many think we "should get over it! It's just a joke!"

If the joke were Trump being hauled around piggyback, of even clinging to Putin's coattail, that'd be funny. But snerk, snerk, a man on another man's penis? Snerk snerk. As far as "it'd be just as funny it it were a woman", no.

At any rate, thank you for the explanation. I hope it is read by others.

I was thinking more along the lines of the tie coming out the back of Putin's pants indicating Trump was kissing his ass would be actually funny. But, once again, we are the "butt" of the joke and then told, "it isn't about you!"

What would be the point in insulting someone by calling them gay, if there wasn't an element of contempt for homosexuality, generally? When you tell someone, "you suck" or "you're so gay", you're telling them they are contemptable and worthless. Telling a strait male he is gay or effeminate, is about the worst insult you can pay him. The homophobia and misogyny (the root of homophobia) are obvious to me.

Do yourself a favor and ask Skinner to delete this thread.