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seaglass

(8,173 posts)
Thu Oct 20, 2016, 11:34 AM Oct 2016

How Russia Pulled Off the Biggest Election Hack in U.S. History

This is a fascinating article. Not sure I understood all of it.

http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a49791/russian-dnc-emails-hacked/

This particular paragraph has me a bit confused as it says The Intercept was involved in identifying hacked malware tools using unpublished NSA info they had from Snowden. If this is the case, why is Glenn Greenwald so dismissive of Russia's involvement in this? Why as a journalist is he not interested in how this data was obtained?

"In mid-August, when Guccifer and DC Leaks were making near-daily news, a third mysterious social-media account popped up out of nowhere. A group calling itself the Shadow Brokers announced that it had published "cyberweapons" that belonged to the NSA on file-sharing sites such as Github. The group said that it would soon hold an auction to sell off a second cache of tools. After a security researcher posted a link to a repository of the supposed NSA software, analysts flocked to the dump. Security researchers quickly discovered that the tools, a collection of malware designed to steal data from their targets, were the real thing. Crucially, The Intercept, a media outlet with access to the NSA files leaked by Edward Snowden, found a sixteen-character string ("ace02468bdf13579&quot in the Shadow Brokers' tools that was referenced in a top-secret, and previously unpublished, NSA manual. The connection proved the provenance of the Shadow Brokers' find.
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How Russia Pulled Off the Biggest Election Hack in U.S. History (Original Post) seaglass Oct 2016 OP
Whole lotta "likely" and "probably" in that article. Wilms Oct 2016 #1
Yes, we know. You love Assange and Putin. Dr Hobbitstein Oct 2016 #5
I love the truth. Wilms Oct 2016 #7
It still is. Dr Hobbitstein Oct 2016 #8
Whole lotta speculation being asserted as fact. Wilms Oct 2016 #9
You mean 7 different intelligence agencies who have concluded such? Dr Hobbitstein Oct 2016 #10
Is that how many concluded that Saddam was going to kill all of us? Wilms Oct 2016 #11
The name is a play on Dr Frankenstein and Hobbits, due to my short stature Dr Hobbitstein Oct 2016 #14
Keep up the good fight Wilms End Of The Road Oct 2016 #25
That would mean that MOST of us don't. And that would be accurate. eom BlueCaliDem Oct 2016 #27
And I appreciate you letting me know, EotR. Wilms Oct 2016 #29
Almost as many as is found in the myriad state-sponsored RT articles. LanternWaste Oct 2016 #17
We're not talking about RT. n/t Wilms Oct 2016 #18
I was just reading about the "shadow brokers" in an article AmericanActivist Oct 2016 #2
Well-reasoned post. Wilms Oct 2016 #3
Because Greenwald and Snowden are Kremlin stooges Blue_Tires Oct 2016 #21
I always felt that it was Snowden who gave our NSA cyber key secrets to Russia kimbutgar Oct 2016 #26
^^^This!^^^ k&r eom BlueCaliDem Oct 2016 #28
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Wilms

(26,795 posts)
1. Whole lotta "likely" and "probably" in that article.
Thu Oct 20, 2016, 11:58 AM
Oct 2016

And this, in reference to your excerpt...

The alternative theory: an old-fashioned mole passed on the tools.


So it's not clear to me that they are saying what you say they are saying. (Just saying.)

I understand we have an Assange, Snowden, Putin, Trump narrative going on. Perhaps at some point we'll figure out if that is true or just more...

 

Dr Hobbitstein

(6,568 posts)
8. It still is.
Thu Oct 20, 2016, 12:36 PM
Oct 2016

The truth is that Russia is behind the cyber attacks on the DNC. The truth is that Russia has been giving info from said attacks to Wikileaks.

You, however, would rather believe the anti-semite rapist Assange is the good guy. That was never a DU tradition.

 

Wilms

(26,795 posts)
9. Whole lotta speculation being asserted as fact.
Thu Oct 20, 2016, 12:40 PM
Oct 2016

Not cool for a PhD.

-edited to add-



Just want to point that out.

 

Dr Hobbitstein

(6,568 posts)
10. You mean 7 different intelligence agencies who have concluded such?
Thu Oct 20, 2016, 12:41 PM
Oct 2016

And who's claiming a PhD? Certainly not me.

 

Wilms

(26,795 posts)
11. Is that how many concluded that Saddam was going to kill all of us?
Thu Oct 20, 2016, 12:45 PM
Oct 2016

And I misunderstood, Dr.

I saw "Dr", and figured you were a PhD.

Funny how some things are not as they are reported. Live and (possibly) learn.

 

Dr Hobbitstein

(6,568 posts)
14. The name is a play on Dr Frankenstein and Hobbits, due to my short stature
Thu Oct 20, 2016, 12:50 PM
Oct 2016

and penchant for building things out of other things (long time musician, build all my own gear).

And no, that is not how many concluded Saddam was going to kill us. Matter of fact, intelligence pointed the opposite way, the Bush admin just cherry picked the data that they wanted. We knew that from day one.

This is a bit different, and quite blatant. Hell, R/T reports on the leaks before they're even printed in Wikileaks. Wikileaks has NEVER been a reputable source for anything (although I hear it's a GREAT place to get tons of viruses and malware). Like the videos they edited purporting "war crimes". Heavily edited and misleading.

 

Wilms

(26,795 posts)
29. And I appreciate you letting me know, EotR.
Fri Oct 21, 2016, 11:09 AM
Oct 2016

I wish it wasn't a fight to ask people to logically view events and to consider themselves first an American, second a Democrat, and third an HRC supporter.

That list is reversed for many it seems.

The seemingly xenophobic reactions to Russia are disturbing. It reminds me of the lead-up to the Iraq war. Some 80% of Americans favored it at the time it was launched. That's a lot of people and has to included way too many Democrats.

I see we're doing something similar all over again.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
17. Almost as many as is found in the myriad state-sponsored RT articles.
Thu Oct 20, 2016, 01:03 PM
Oct 2016

"Whole lotta "likely" and "probably" in that article..."

Almost as many as is found in the myriad state-sponsored RT articles.

AmericanActivist

(1,019 posts)
2. I was just reading about the "shadow brokers" in an article
Thu Oct 20, 2016, 12:04 PM
Oct 2016

about the American man arrested in August with an immense amount of classified information at his home. The FBI got search warrants and went through his house, car and shed. It is an article in the NYT. So far, it is unclear if this American shared or sold classified information or if he was hacked.

Interesting as all this Russian hacking unfolds bit by bit.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
21. Because Greenwald and Snowden are Kremlin stooges
Thu Oct 20, 2016, 01:49 PM
Oct 2016

and like Assange and the rest of their boys club, they are so opposed to a Hillary presidency they don't care who they get in bed with, or what they have to turn a blind eye to...

I've only been screaming this to anyone who would listen for God knows how long...

kimbutgar

(21,164 posts)
26. I always felt that it was Snowden who gave our NSA cyber key secrets to Russia
Fri Oct 21, 2016, 10:51 AM
Oct 2016

He is no hero but a traitor. I have a friend who was praising Snowden and I pointed this out. She said she never thought of this and pulled her praise of Snowden. That weasel and greenwald are traitors.

And I think before the election is over the NSA or another agency has evidence Cheeto is cohorts with Putin. And it will be exposed.

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