she was sinking like a rock....they had to start chemo....obviously the pregnancy could not continue.
we were fortunate that our son was far along enuf so that we could do a c-section. Had it been earlier, an abortion was
a necessity.

People who don't understand a woman's right to choose need to read this.

And exactly why this should always be a private decision amongst a woman, her loved ones, and her doctors.

I would have done the same exact thing.

Who could want that suffering to continue?

Maybe opinions on here have changed on the subject?

And I don't know if science has an answer.

if it were born prematurely.

I don't know at what point a fetus matures neurologically enough to feel pain, but it isn't like a switch goes on at the moment of birth.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2900087/

Anaesthetic plan for Fetal Surgery Procedures
Ex Utero Intrapartum Treatment Procedures

EXIT procedures require maternal laparotomy and hysterotomy while maintaining uteroplacental circulation. General anaesthesia is preferable as it accomplishes both maternal and fetal anaesthesia.

WARNING: POTENTIAL THREAD DERAILMENT AHEAD!

CIRCUMCISION! CIRCUMCISION! CIRCUMCISION! CIRCUMCISION! CIRCUMCISION!

Okay, now that we have that out of the way - infants show greatly differing reactions to a procedure that would be, without question, undeniably, unfathomably brutal were it performed (as it is on infants) upon a fully conscious, 20yo male with NO local, oral, or IV pain-killer given.

Instinctual withdrawal from a given stimuli does not equal pain.

There's just too much we do not know to make blanket statements about pain as it relates to late-term pregnancies and neonates.

but they dropped that practice after research showed that anesthesia improved vital signs (heart rate, blood pressure, etc) during the procedure, leading them to believe surgery without anesthesia was causing pain. They've found the same thing for fetal surgeries.

Again, there is no sudden switch that goes on at the moment of birth or later. They do believe that newborns can feel pain, and so can fetuses close to full development,, and that's why they use anesthesia for fetal surgeries.

I'm so lucky to have 3 healthy, beautiful children. But I know I would have done the same. My husband and I talked about it when we had amniocentesis with our youngest. We felt strongly about it and were certain. We were grateful when the test confirmed we had a healthy pregnancy.

We have three healthy children also. I had an amnio with my third, and we did discuss options. I was 35 then, and there was a family history of birth defects. Everything turned out well.

My oldest daughter lived in Wisconsin for several years. She came into contact with a group who did a lot of yelling about "partial birth abortions." She and her friends found the statistics for late term abortions for Wisconsin residents for the three latest years they were available. There were two a year. That was all. Those are rare, and only done under the most critical circumstances.

Every time someone uses the term "partial birth abortion," or says something ignorant, as Trump did, I just keep repeating that there is no medical procedure called "partial birth abortion." I keep saying "late term abortion." I don't care how often I have to say it.

That poor woman. She wanted a large family, too.

I found out that even a grumpy old dude can still get tears from a story...

I would have done the same. I would have helped a loved one to do the same if it were in my power.

It brings back so many memories of women I have loved who lost babies they wanted and loved. My MIL, who miscarried her only daughter. My mother, who named her stillborn son David Freeman (free - man). My daughter, who lost her own daughter to SIDS.

When you want a child, I swear you imagine it into being with your whole heart.

I used to write rituals for women and men at turning points in their lives. I wrote one for a miscarriage. I also created an extensive outline for someone deciding to end a pregnancy -- for whatever reason they deemed necessary, because women are moral agents in our own right and I believe we have the right to decide.

The Donald Trumps of this world have absolutely no place here. He can go to Hell and take his lies with him.

The story made me weep too...

He knew absolutely nothing about Roe v. Wade, absolutely nothing about abortion, absolutely nothing about the Supreme Court. And he cares absolutely nothing about any of it. He would never dream of studying the issues, even a tiny bit. Easier to make up some lying nazi story, and to tell it to the country with complete conviction and outraged indignation.

He was never pro-choice before, maybe he was pro-abortion if a 4th or 5th woman inconveniently got pregnant when having a relationship with him. He may have been in favor of pressuring her to have an abortion, then.

His stupid cartoonish lie about "a day before 9 months", he said with such righteous anger and conviction. He knows jack squat, but says he knows it all, with a perfect used car sales delivery. Just like the swinish Limpbaugh with his Sandra Fluke birth control pill story.

....the debate about late-term abortion. Never mind he left out how infrequent they occur and only with massive medical consultation and reasons that are medical and gut-wrenching decisions. Not to mention the way he described it happening is false. It was red meat for the pro-lifers and frankly designed to make them frothe at the mouth and to paint Hillary as some kind of "Nasty Woman Satanic Baby Killer".

It was most of all a further attack on all women and the right to making medical and life decisions with their doctors and loved ones that impact them profoundly. I loathe this man. He is dangerous to women and men alike. But he is dangerous. Very dangerous. And he really hates women.

to move along a natural birth of the deceased baby.

IMO, this is not a typical case anyone for or against 'abortion' should cite as any proof. And why not use organs for transplant so some part of Rose could live forever? She lived, survived for 9 months.

from the date of the last menstrual cycle.

No, they cannot use the organs for transplants. They had to kill the fetus with the injection so that the fetus would have no further pain, then and during the delivery. You cannot use organs from a deceased fetus.

This of course isn't a typical case for abortion. It is an example of a very late abortion, the kind that the GOP is currently trying to end.

Late term abortions are of wanted babies where something went terribly wrong. Like this.