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Augiedog

(2,548 posts)
Fri Oct 21, 2016, 06:41 PM Oct 2016

I'm going to turn the Russian hack conspiracy on its head. Yes Russia is hacking, and yes the

Donald has an extensive business relationship with Russian oligarchs. That said, it seems improbable that they would want someone as unpredictable and volatile as tRump being president. They may well see him as a tool, but not as a political tool that has its finger on the nuclear button.
Russia is one country that does not want to be the focus in a world war. Their experience in World War Two decimated them even though they were on the victorious side. It was a massively costly victory for them, untold millions died in Russia and they have not forgotten for one second their vulnerabilities then or now. That is one of the driving factors in their pursuit of a buffer zone of land around their country and their need for sea access, thus their Syrian policy.
The most important thing for them is stability in the world powers that can influence their future. While they see NATO as a nuisance if not a threat, NATO will not attack them and they know it. NATO has kept Europe stable, this matters. Donald threatens NATO formulation if not existence. Not good for Russia, even if they complain.
They want and need the rational HRC in the Oval Office, not a narcissistic screwball who lives in a fantasy world of his own bankrupt design.
The hacking is serving at least two purposes. One, it tweaks our national sense of what we believe of our selves. Sort of a see we can mess in your world too, see how you like it. Two, it is a Trojan horse attack in the sense that it's goal is not what it seems. Hidden within the apparent support of tRump is the real, nuanced, scheme of undermining the Donald by making it appear he is a puppet of Putin. Think of the Russian dolls, one inside the other.
The clumsy nature of this hack and the ease with which it was exposed should tell us more about it than not. The whole thing is worthy of a Robert Ludlum novel.

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I'm going to turn the Russian hack conspiracy on its head. Yes Russia is hacking, and yes the (Original Post) Augiedog Oct 2016 OP
Meh... to an old KGB pro, like Putin, the thought of a very maleable, readily manipulated narcissist hlthe2b Oct 2016 #1
You seem concerned. nt msanthrope Oct 2016 #2
Just like Trump, he knows it is all a "hoax" emulatorloo Oct 2016 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author cpwm17 Oct 2016 #4
Trump owes mercuryblues Oct 2016 #6
occurs to me that the dns attacks today could be a prelude to election day dembotoz Oct 2016 #7
Not. Coyotl Oct 2016 #11
No emulatorloo Oct 2016 #12
Wait, wut? ismnotwasm Oct 2016 #8
Thank you for your concern. Republicans spied on the Congressional e-mail servers. Coyotl Oct 2016 #10
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hlthe2b

(102,283 posts)
1. Meh... to an old KGB pro, like Putin, the thought of a very maleable, readily manipulated narcissist
Fri Oct 21, 2016, 06:46 PM
Oct 2016

with zero understanding of geopolitics, history, or much of anything else.... would undoubtedly be a "wet dream".

Besides the fact that using the wikileaks conduit likewise underscores the absolute hatred Assange has for Clinton.

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mercuryblues

(14,532 posts)
6. Trump owes
Fri Oct 21, 2016, 07:11 PM
Oct 2016

Russians a lot of money. It would not be past Trump to make a deal for them to wipe his debt clean. That is what they are after.

dembotoz

(16,806 posts)
7. occurs to me that the dns attacks today could be a prelude to election day
Fri Oct 21, 2016, 07:12 PM
Oct 2016

variety of sites that need the internet to report votes or what ever....
with the gop convinced the election is rigged.....confusion due to attacks could lead to a real mess

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
10. Thank you for your concern. Republicans spied on the Congressional e-mail servers.
Fri Oct 21, 2016, 07:26 PM
Oct 2016

Republicans broke into Watergate. Where is your concern about that?

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