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malaise

(269,067 posts)
Sat Oct 22, 2016, 08:02 AM Oct 2016

Vanity Fair - The Inglorious End of Chris Christie

http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/10/chris-christie-donald-trump-campaign
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After dropping out of the Republican primary, Chris Christie emerged as one of Donald Trump’s most vocal, and arguably most effective, surrogates. But the unusual bromance between the New Jersey governor and the New York real-estate mogul has come at a steep political cost to Christie. Now, despite months of loyalty to the man he reportedly calls “Mr. Trump,” Christie appears to be fading into the background as the Trump campaign sinks under a wave of sexual harassment allegations, just as new developments in the “Bridgegate” scandal threaten to drown Christie’s own political legacy back home. With Christie’s gubernatorial approval rating hitting a new low, it’s looking increasingly clear that hitching his Beltway ambitions to Trump’s star was a career-ending mistake.

In recent weeks, Christie has struggled to defend his former rival. After Trump’s hot-mic scandal first broke two weeks ago, Christie characterized the Republican nominee’s remarks as “indefensible.” He pulled out of a scheduled CNN appearance the day after the recording first surfaced, and was conspicuously absent from the second presidential debate. On Monday, when asked if he was “proud” of the Trump campaign, the governor demurred. “For me, the person who needs most to be concerned about the kind of campaign they are running is the candidate. Because it’s the candidate’s campaign,” Christie told NBC News. “It’s not my campaign. It’s not Jeff Sessions’s campaign. It’s not Rudy Giuliani’s campaign. We’re surrogates. And I’m proud of everything I’ve said and that’s all I can control. The rest of it I can’t control.”

It was a telling admission of defeat after months of fervently defending any number of Trump’s indefensible political blunders on the campaign trail. As the head of Trump’s White House transition team—a consolation prize, and perhaps a stepping-stone to a Cabinet position, after Trump passed over him for vice president—Christie has as much invested as anybody in getting Trump across the finish line. Yet as The Washington Post reported Wednesday, Christie has effectively delegated his responsibilities to Rich Bagger, his former chief of staff, who is at the center of the potentially ill-fated effort to assemble a viable Trump administration. Christie, after all, has his own problems to deal with. Earlier this month, the prosecution’s star witness and former Christie ally David Wildstein testified in the ongoing “Bridgegate” case that the governor was not only aware of the 2013 scheme to engineer a politically-motivated traffic jam on the George Washington Bridge, but that he laughed about it (and allegedly colluded with New York governor Andrew Cuomo to cover up his involvement). Last week, a New Jersey judge issued a criminal summons against Christie after ruling that there was probable cause to launch a criminal investigation into his role in the lane-closure scandal. (Christie has maintained he had “no knowledge of the lane realignments either before they happened or while they were happening,” according to a spokesperson.)

Bridgegate isn’t the only reason that Christie’s political stock is tanking. New Jersey voters were peeved when he abandoned the state to campaign for president, putting his national ambitions ahead of the state’s interests. A 2015 survey of conservative New Jersey voters found that only 5 percent supported his decision to run. Christie’s fortunes sank further when he didn’t return to the Garden State after ending his bid, instead becoming a top surrogate and adviser to Donald Trump. As if to deliberately solidify his unpopularity, last week Christie signed a bill increasing the gas tax 23 cents—the first gas tax increase since 1988. According to a poll released Wednesday, Christie’s approval rating has since sunk to 21 percent, down from 26 percent in July. Or, put another way, a whopping four out of five people in New Jersey disapprove of the Republican governor.

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Vanity Fair - The Inglorious End of Chris Christie (Original Post) malaise Oct 2016 OP
Krispy Had To Believe That He Would Be Found Out.... global1 Oct 2016 #1
Arrogance, hubris anda sense of entitlement malaise Oct 2016 #7
K&R... spanone Oct 2016 #2
Great piece. Christy's appetite for revenge saltpoint Oct 2016 #3
More than revenge - ambition malaise Oct 2016 #4
True. He seemed to already have abandoned saltpoint Oct 2016 #5
And the NJ Democratic Party threw its candidate for governor overboard in tacit support of this Feeling the Bern Oct 2016 #6
Very good point malaise Oct 2016 #8
And that chicken is coming home to roost JustAnotherGen Oct 2016 #15
I don't think we threw her "overboard." Nor did we support Christie. NNadir Oct 2016 #19
Murphy supports marijuana legalization, does he not? Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #25
So what? That's an extremely unimportant issue here. NNadir Oct 2016 #26
"stoner issue" "triviality" Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #27
Like I said, so what? NNadir Oct 2016 #29
Oh, when California goes, it is going to pull in well over 100 mil a year. Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #31
They really democrats? lonestarnot Oct 2016 #20
He's all done politically Jarqui Oct 2016 #9
Never forget the ReTHUGs put him in charge of their governors malaise Oct 2016 #11
Maybe His Support For Trump... Laxman Oct 2016 #10
I want both impeachment and a prison sentence malaise Oct 2016 #12
Crispie............... MyOwnPeace Oct 2016 #23
Guilty malaise Oct 2016 #24
New Jersey Democrats need to find a (semi) clean person BumRushDaShow Oct 2016 #13
Phil Murphy.... Laxman Oct 2016 #14
Thank you! BumRushDaShow Oct 2016 #17
Murphy! JustAnotherGen Oct 2016 #16
I did see that he got alot of big endorsements early BumRushDaShow Oct 2016 #18
I'd like to say "Couldn't happen to a crapier guy." but I'd be wrong. lindysalsagal Oct 2016 #21
Both are scumbags malaise Oct 2016 #22
The problem with brown-nosing Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #28
Christie is what happens when Democrats forget on simple rule: Dark n Stormy Knight Oct 2016 #30

global1

(25,253 posts)
1. Krispy Had To Believe That He Would Be Found Out....
Sat Oct 22, 2016, 08:14 AM
Oct 2016

to have had prior knowledge of the bridge closing. He had to believe that one of his team would rat him out.

The M.O. for all Repugs is - just lie.

Well the lies are finally catching up with the Repugs.

malaise

(269,067 posts)
7. Arrogance, hubris anda sense of entitlement
Sat Oct 22, 2016, 09:03 AM
Oct 2016

If you are prepared to have an out of control politician throw a water bottle at you and not leave the job, don't blame the asshole for believing you'll remain loyal.

When Stepien ran out of the state, the cat was out of the bag - I knew they all knew

http://www.nj.com/opinion/index.ssf/2016/09/whos_telling_the_truth_in_bridgegate_wildstein_or.html
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The former Port Authority official who has pleaded guilty in the lane closure scandal, said Gov. Chris Christie knew about the traffic at the George Washington Bridge while it was happening. And, according to Wildstein's testimony, when the governor was informed about the gridlock in Fort Lee — just before a ceremony to honor victims of 9/11, no less — he laughed.

The governor refuted the allegations Tuesday, maintaining he knew didn't know about the scheme or the bridge lane closures.

WNYC's Matt Katz and Andrea Bernstein join us with the latest on the trial. This week, we dig deep into Wildstein's testimony. Speaking with host David Furst, Matt says it's all starting to make sense why "Wildstein would have been able to get away with it and why there would have been such an attempt at a cover-up."

Plus, we look at another ex-Christie confidante who has emerged as a key figure in the Bridgegate saga, the governor's former campaign manager — and current national field director for the Trump presidential campaign — Bill Stepien.

saltpoint

(50,986 posts)
3. Great piece. Christy's appetite for revenge
Sat Oct 22, 2016, 08:44 AM
Oct 2016

did him in. Certain mayors wouldn't play ball with endorsements, so a heavily used bridge is jammed to public traffic.

"Time for some traffic problems in Fort Lee."

Time for some court proceedings on the mean-spirited Governor of New Jersey.

And Governor Christy, I know you'll savor the irony that certain orange suits worn by certain people in certain prisons are the same color as both Trump's hair and the cones used to clog bridge traffic.

malaise

(269,067 posts)
4. More than revenge - ambition
Sat Oct 22, 2016, 08:49 AM
Oct 2016

If he could have pulled off significant support in a blue state, he thought he would be the presidential candidate. To be kind, he's just another nasty, vindictive, corrupt ReTHUGcretin.

saltpoint

(50,986 posts)
5. True. He seemed to already have abandoned
Sat Oct 22, 2016, 08:54 AM
Oct 2016

his duties as a state's governor and was scheming for a national campaign.

Didn't work out so well after the lane closings on that bridge. He went from a strong contender for the Pukes' nom to an ass-over-teacups fall down the stairwell.

I hope Democrats in New Jersey have some good folks lined up to run for governor next cycle there.

 

Feeling the Bern

(3,839 posts)
6. And the NJ Democratic Party threw its candidate for governor overboard in tacit support of this
Sat Oct 22, 2016, 09:00 AM
Oct 2016

clown.

NJ Democrats need to be reminded of this all the time. The NJ Democratic Party supported this turd.

JustAnotherGen

(31,828 posts)
15. And that chicken is coming home to roost
Sat Oct 22, 2016, 09:36 AM
Oct 2016

All of those jerks that bowed down to Christie and threw Buono under the bus - can't fight Murphy - who is running towards his time working for Obama and makes no excuses for his career in Finance.

NNadir

(33,528 posts)
19. I don't think we threw her "overboard." Nor did we support Christie.
Sat Oct 22, 2016, 10:13 AM
Oct 2016

We in the Democratic Party have had a very weak selection process for our candidates in this state, and it is reflected in the fact that we have not really had an outstanding Governor in this state since Jim Florio was defeated by that awful woman Christie Whitman using a "no tax" pledge that bankrupted us.

(On reflection, I've overlooked Richard Codey - but his Governorship was too short to have reached its full potential, and he was forced out by that distracted money man John Corzine)

Now of course, it appears that our next gubernatorial candidate will be Phil Murphy - apparently by acclimation although he has been in no way vetted - and our best Democrats in this state, Codey and former Congressman Rush Holt - have received no attention whatsoever.

New Jersey is one of the most wonderful places on earth to live; and somehow the state has managed to survive although each Governor we've elected - Codey wasn't elected governor - in recent years has managed to at least as bad as, and in many cases (including Kripsy Christie) far worse than his or her predecessor.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
25. Murphy supports marijuana legalization, does he not?
Sat Oct 22, 2016, 08:02 PM
Oct 2016

I'm sure that will have the East Coast hand-wringer crowd very "concerned"

NNadir

(33,528 posts)
26. So what? That's an extremely unimportant issue here.
Sat Oct 22, 2016, 11:09 PM
Oct 2016

At this point, stoner issues have basically no meaning.

It's hardly a worthwhile issue on which to select a Governor. Important issues are dealing with our cities, Camden, Trenton, and Newark in that order; extending decent and safe schools for the students there, expanding our environmental protections, reversing the outflow of our intellectual base, the high technology companies that supported our economy for so many decades, preventing our farms from becoming ever more strip malls and housing tracts.

I don't see what having more people freely smoking joints have to do with any of that.

I am, if you must know, an "East Coast Hand Wringer," at least in the minds, I'm sure of poorly focused people who worry about trivialities in an increasingly dire time.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
27. "stoner issue" "triviality"
Sat Oct 22, 2016, 11:32 PM
Oct 2016


Just wait.

Thank you, for proving my point more concisely than I could ever hope to. Meanwhile, CO, WA, and OR have pulled in over 100 million dollars in taxable revenue this year from legalized cannabis. EACH.

A little podunk state called California; maybe you've heard of it? is also set to legalize in a couple weeks. I certainly wouldn't bet against it. Some overall-wearing hayseed named Gavin Newsom, the Lt. Governor of that remote, unpopulated region, also supports the measure, strongly.

Takes it serious, he does. He also has some farfetched tarnation notions of running for Governor, and some crazy people have even suggested the man might even be a future Democratic contender for President in a decade or so.

Yeah, the East Coast will catch a clue, eventually, probably a good 5-10 years after the West does, because that seems to be how things work. Until then, feel free to imagine that the issue is one giant cheech and chong joke. (Of course, Mass. and Maine may legalize on election day, too, and more power to 'em)

...As for the "outflow of your high technology intellectual base".... hmm, and I wonder where they're going? Any ideas?

Maybe they're moving to states that aren't run by donut-munching thugs like Chris Christie, and hopelessly stuck in the past.





NNadir

(33,528 posts)
29. Like I said, so what?
Sun Oct 23, 2016, 12:04 AM
Oct 2016

Our intellectual base is not going to stoner land, if you must know.

It's going to Massachusetts, but that doesn't have anything to do with the glory of getting high.

I've met thousands of high level scientists in my career; I can't recall any of them carried on about marijuana laws per se, although I have known scientists who have worked on the medicinal and biochemistry of cannabinoids.

I lived for many years, a good part of two decades, in California. So I've heard of it; and I'm glad, frankly to be gone from it. The K-12 schools sucked because of the worship of a mindless flake called Howard Jarvis, the energy policies were stupid, and they kept electing people like Ronald Reagan, Pete Wilson, George Dukemejian, and let's not forget Governor Hydrogen Hummer himself, Arnold.

It's therefore not surprising to me at all that there are people there who regard access to dope as the premier issue in the State.

I don't think that high tech companies in California are there because of the great K-12 schools. My general impression is that a good deal of fashion is involved and some high paid executives like the weather. (The University system is still excellent, although I would expect that to decline as well. I've advised my son to ignore all the emails he gets from Berkeley, UCSD, UCSB and UCLA.)

Um, a hundred million bucks out of the pockets of stoners is not going to fix California schools, and making it easier to get high won't either. It's a trivial amount of money, particularly in California, where according to the budget document I just called up, the budget is 118 billion dollars. That's three orders of magnitude more than the projected revenue from the dope bill.

Over the years, I've seldom been inspired by people trying to do math while high.

From where I sit, the premier issue in California, might be something other than pot, for example, um, water, but I guess if you're high enough, you wouldn't care much about that.

Like I said, I'm glad to be the hell out of there. I certainly wouldn't want New Jersey to be more like California, anything but...

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
31. Oh, when California goes, it is going to pull in well over 100 mil a year.
Sun Oct 23, 2016, 07:46 AM
Oct 2016

Try adding another zero, at least.

http://extract.suntimes.com/news/10/153/11109/california-marijuana-legalization-taxes-1-billion-predicted/

Of course, you are dealing with the most populous state in the union, as well as the 8th largest economy on the planet. But; im sure it's all due to "fashion" that all those 38 million people (numbers again... bummer, duuuude) wouldnt rather live in New Jersey.


Certainly.



Yyyyyyyyyeah. I've been to both, and I know which one i like better.

Jarqui

(10,126 posts)
9. He's all done politically
Sat Oct 22, 2016, 09:12 AM
Oct 2016

His polling is brutal.

He'll probably join BS artist Rudy Giuliani on the media pundit circuit so unfortunately, we probably haven't heard the last of him unless he wind up in jail after his people fingered him in court

malaise

(269,067 posts)
11. Never forget the ReTHUGs put him in charge of their governors
Sat Oct 22, 2016, 09:16 AM
Oct 2016

after this politically vindictive act against citizens of New Jersey.

Laxman

(2,419 posts)
10. Maybe His Support For Trump...
Sat Oct 22, 2016, 09:15 AM
Oct 2016

was the last straw for people, but I think not. Although it was clearly a cumulative result, vpeople finally came around to understanding what a vile person Christie is. It's not Trump, it's not Bridgegate, it's not the gas tax shell game that he played, its the entirety of his administration. Top to bottom. It's run like an organized crime syndicate. They have their hands in everything that government touches and used it for Christie's advancement. It just took people a while to understand it. Some people can spot a pattern quickly and others need to see more before they understand it. The pattern is there. Then there's an element of disbelief. Sometimes when something is so messed up people will say "no, that can't really be happening, nobody would do anything like THAT ". Guess what folks, that somebody is Christie and his merry band of government pirates.

MyOwnPeace

(16,928 posts)
23. Crispie...............
Sat Oct 22, 2016, 07:49 PM
Oct 2016

marching off into the evening in an orange jump suit would make a wonderful inspirational pic - a special New Jersey sunset!

BumRushDaShow

(129,143 posts)
13. New Jersey Democrats need to find a (semi) clean person
Sat Oct 22, 2016, 09:26 AM
Oct 2016

to run in the NJ gubernatorial election coming up in 2017 (Krispy can't run again). Sad that I have to say "semi" because the state has had a century of political disasters tied to corruption - from the lowest levels all the way up to the top, and it crosses both parties.

Here in Philly, we are the media market for South Jersey, and I really haven't heard much reported (with the coverage of the Presidential election) regarding who in either party is interested in or is planning to run for governor there next year.

BumRushDaShow

(129,143 posts)
17. Thank you!
Sat Oct 22, 2016, 09:58 AM
Oct 2016

Spent the past 20 minutes on his website and other sites and given his background, me might be about as good a "compromise" candidate that Democrats can get, given the need for the indie vote.

NJ has a good chunk of bedroom communities for the NYC & Philly business crowds. His potential good points would be (based on similar with Wolf here in PA for the indie vote) -

1.) Business background
2.) Former Ambassador under Obama
3.) Has money (sadly nowadays, you can't run for governor without a personal fortune in some states)
4.) Was heavily involved with Dean and the 50-state strategy & Dean recently endorsed him
5.) Worked for the DNC as a finance director
6.) Irish Catholic - obviously a large demographic (but am not finding his stance on abortion)
7.) Supports MJ legalization

Some downsides would be -

1.) Long time Goldman Sachs employment - the pariah of the Democratic left
2.) Had issues with his ambassadorship in Germany
3.) Not a native Jerseyite

The hope here is that he didn't do something while @ Goldman Sachs that could take him out like what happened with Corzine.

JustAnotherGen

(31,828 posts)
16. Murphy!
Sat Oct 22, 2016, 09:40 AM
Oct 2016


There is no find and there will be no shenanigans tolerated by those folks over the bridge. There was too much involvement from NYC. They need to butt out.

By Murphy getting traction so early - they can't catch up. Next Spring will be too late to try and get us to do what is best for Manhattan.

BumRushDaShow

(129,143 posts)
18. I did see that he got alot of big endorsements early
Sat Oct 22, 2016, 10:00 AM
Oct 2016

including the teachers and some Democratic bigwigs.

lindysalsagal

(20,693 posts)
21. I'd like to say "Couldn't happen to a crapier guy." but I'd be wrong.
Sat Oct 22, 2016, 12:50 PM
Oct 2016

I think fRump is actually crapier.

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