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CK_John

(10,005 posts)
Tue Oct 25, 2016, 07:51 PM Oct 2016

Chris Matthews just hit a home run segment dealing with why the working class are

being screwed by the system. The sad point is he doesn't know it and that this segment should be studied by anybody who plans on running for office.

IMO, They ( him and the panel ) finally figured out that the problem is automation and that the future for the next POTUS is going to be a rough road and probably only a one term.

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unblock

(52,352 posts)
2. we've also had no recession for nearly 8 years (since just as obama's first term was starting)
Tue Oct 25, 2016, 07:58 PM
Oct 2016

12 years without a recession would be unprecedented.

so hillary's very likely to be trying to get re-elected with a lousy economy during the campaign, or in the recent past.
rarely an easy task.


i know, i know, let's win this one first....

BeyondGeography

(39,384 posts)
3. No one knows shit about the next four years
Tue Oct 25, 2016, 08:03 PM
Oct 2016

The only thing I'll say is HRC needs to govern from the left on economic issues and stay there.

uponit7771

(90,367 posts)
6. It's been automation but the tracking and training and relocation programs have been abysmal at best
Tue Oct 25, 2016, 08:11 PM
Oct 2016

... and few have kept up with the to the level they should be kept up with.

If someone is automated out of their job or displaced out of their jobs the "here's some money go find something you hate to do" isn't a good answer.

The DNC has a chance to capture that vote by doing some practical and proven train and track program and have the companies who are doing the displacement pay for it

uponit7771

(90,367 posts)
8. Unnn, I don't think companies should dump workers on cities then resell their goods back to
Tue Oct 25, 2016, 11:17 PM
Oct 2016

... America for the sake of their bottom line.

The company who does the displacement via automation or offshoring should take care of some of the effects of the displacement no?

tia

duncang

(1,907 posts)
9. Maybe he should have listened to Hillary.
Wed Oct 26, 2016, 12:26 AM
Oct 2016

She said the same thing about the coal industry when all the stupid talking point shit which came spewing out of dipshit donnie and his surrogates. But tweety wasn't listening that day. All everyone did was seize on a single sentence. And media merrily went about making a horse race.

Since I have had a lot of time in the energy industry things have been changing for a long time. But recently it has accelerated. The company I worked for did incentive packages for people to retire early. I was lucky. Others weren't in the same position. It was all due to automation. What was at one time 4 control centers dropped to 3, then dropped to 2, and one day I'm sure will be 1. All the normal rounds people had to make to check on equipment, levels, temperatures, etc were reduced due to remote sensing and computer controls.

Orrex

(63,228 posts)
10. Matthews is worthless and should be avoided
Wed Oct 26, 2016, 07:30 AM
Oct 2016

He's wrong almost as often as Bill Kristol, for god's sake, though not quite as pointedly objectionable as Bill Maher.

Further, that crap about "a rough road and probably only a one term" is an olive branch for Conservative viewers: he's telling them that Clinton will be elected, but he's softening the blow by assuring them that she won't last.

I can't stand him, and I cringe every time I seem him praised or quoted here on DU.

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