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Wow this is literally how fascism takes root (Original Post) kpete Oct 2016 OP
K&R for visibility. nt tblue37 Oct 2016 #1
Truth colsohlibgal Oct 2016 #2
Yeah, some of Trump's supporters are legit scary. Willie Pep Oct 2016 #31
Robert Reich seems to have a lot of imaginary conversations KittyWampus Oct 2016 #3
Agree with you. cwydro Oct 2016 #16
Thank you for your concern. baldguy Oct 2016 #17
Thank you for your non sequitir KittyWampus Oct 2016 #19
I'm in Alabama. yallerdawg Oct 2016 #4
There are still plenty of people murielm99 Oct 2016 #6
I can relate DissidentVoice Oct 2016 #10
Howdy neighbor LittleGirl Oct 2016 #15
Maybe neighbours DissidentVoice Oct 2016 #23
My brother in Indy and sis in SB listen to Rush still LittleGirl Oct 2016 #29
I agree, about the same here in Kentucky get the red out Oct 2016 #28
'not a Trump enabler' Yes, yes you are. Maybe you don't celebrate him but by not speaking out... Crash2Parties Oct 2016 #8
Yes it is, kpete Hekate Oct 2016 #11
Knr AgadorSparticus Oct 2016 #14
Anyone who thinks Americans are not just like the pre-WWII Germans is wrong. alarimer Oct 2016 #18
I've been saying the same a very long time. The good Germans stood by, thinking it was RKP5637 Oct 2016 #27
K&R... spanone Oct 2016 #20
And so the democracy of the US falls into the history bin of once a democracy, now trashed. n/t RKP5637 Oct 2016 #26
I like Robert and I agree with all this kwolf68 Oct 2016 #30
Don Scion needs a beat down on an epic scale. sarcasmo Oct 2016 #33
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colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
2. Truth
Sun Oct 30, 2016, 11:20 PM
Oct 2016

The dark underbelly of Trump supporters are dangerous lunatic right wing thugs.

Just look at some of their vile tee shirts.

We need decent minded republicans to show a spine.

Willie Pep

(841 posts)
31. Yeah, some of Trump's supporters are legit scary.
Mon Oct 31, 2016, 02:27 PM
Oct 2016

They are worse than your typical conservative Republican. Part of me sympathizes with the fear for one's safety and the desire to not speak out against Trump, maybe in the hope that when he loses his movement will melt away.

The problem with that is I don't think either he or his movement are going to go away even if he loses. The GOP really has to deal with the Frankenstein monster they have created. After all they have been using racist dog whistles for decades so hearing them clutch their pearls when it comes to Trump rings somewhat hollow to me.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
3. Robert Reich seems to have a lot of imaginary conversations
Sun Oct 30, 2016, 11:23 PM
Oct 2016

He'd do better to come up with a better rhetorical device.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
4. I'm in Alabama.
Sun Oct 30, 2016, 11:27 PM
Oct 2016

You have to be in a red state to understand how reviled Hillary is. It is shocking and frightening. We've lost friends forever over Hillary, Obama and Trump.

Just had my Arizona sister-in-law Facebook pictures from Trump rally in Phoenix.

She now believes Hillary will be charged before the election, and only an idiot and a traitor would support Hillary. All of my wife's side of the family has decided we don't talk about the election - ever. I never talked to her anyway - she and her husband have been Republicans forever, like I got no problem with that?

We'll see just how crazy it gets.

murielm99

(30,764 posts)
6. There are still plenty of people
Mon Oct 31, 2016, 12:09 AM
Oct 2016

who believe vile things about President Obama.

I am sorry you are surrounded by so much craziness.

DissidentVoice

(813 posts)
10. I can relate
Mon Oct 31, 2016, 01:30 AM
Oct 2016

I live in Michigan. We moved here from our native Indiana in 2007. Michigan has its pockets of RW nutjobs but Indiana is an entire STATE of RW nutjobs outside the major cities (South Bend, Fort Wayne, Indianapolis) and university towns (Lafayette and Bloomington, which is so different to the rest of Indiana that it should secede).

I grew up east of South Bend. There was a Klan training camp in St Joseph County that the Sheriff's Department tried for years to shut down. Whether or not it's still there I don't know.

Out in the rural areas it was like the Deep South - Confederate flags, trucks with "White Power" licence plates, etc.

Except for 1964 and 2008, Indiana is robotically, automatically Republican. I knew people who automatically voted for anyone with an "R" by their name, whether or not they knew anything about them. I knew people who voted straight Republican because "if it was good enough for my daddy and grand-daddy, it's good enough for me!"

Indiana is the first state to have the polls close, and it always (with the two exceptions noted) slides automatically into the Republican column.

Remember, Mike Pence is the Governor of Indiana, and even though he sounds relatively sane in comparison to Trump, he has chosen to hitch his political wagon to this madman.

The first "Rush Room" was in Mishawaka.

Bill Clinton was universally reviled in Indiana, and George W Bush was almost worshipped. To speak out against his wars was considered treasonous then...I cannot imagine what it is like now.

LittleGirl

(8,291 posts)
15. Howdy neighbor
Mon Oct 31, 2016, 02:09 AM
Oct 2016

I grew up in South Bend and Mishawaka was my home before I finally got out of there in '06. I wonder if we know each other?

I don't remember the Rush Room. What's that?

Welcome to DU.

DissidentVoice

(813 posts)
23. Maybe neighbours
Mon Oct 31, 2016, 11:35 AM
Oct 2016

I am actually from Goshen, though I lived in Elkhart and worked in Osceola, South Bend and Mishawaka. Back in '92-'93 I worked for Society Bank in the (then) Society Bank Tower in downtown SB. I did a lot of temporary work around various places in South Bend, like the Holy Cross Care Services (downtown) and Clay United Methodist Church on Cleveland Road.

South Bend and Mishawaka are actually considered Democratic strongholds in a heavily-Republican state. Just next door in Elkhart County (where I was born and raised) it is so Republican that in the '90s the Democratic Party even closed its offices there.

As to whether we "know each other"...I doubt it, though one never knows. I will be 51 in January and didn't know too many people out of my age range. I also served in the Air National Guard 122nd Tactical Fighter Wing in Fort Wayne and my cousin was the Recruiting Sergeant for the Army National Guard in Elkhart. I also served as a volunteer in the Civil Air Patrol, which at that time was located at the Armed Forces Reserve Centre on Kemble Avenue off Ewing Avenue in South Bend.

"Rush Rooms" became popular in the '90s. They were/are places in restaurants, bars, etc., where Rush Limbaugh disciples could get together, listen to his three hours of spew on the radio (WSBT 960 in SB) and reinforce one another's bullshit about how bad Bill Clinton was. A restaurant in Mishawaka, the name I don't remember, claimed to be the first one in the country.

I left northern Indiana in 1999 when I got married and we left Indiana in 2007.

LittleGirl

(8,291 posts)
29. My brother in Indy and sis in SB listen to Rush still
Mon Oct 31, 2016, 02:18 PM
Oct 2016

ugh! I can't stand that guy and I didn't get political until Obama came on the scene.
I went to Adams High School in South Bend and when I was learning about government, Nixon resigned in disgrace so we're close in age. I lived in AZ in the 90s and lived in Ft. Wayne for about 18 months in 82-83. I lived in Indy from '09 to '12 and have been in Switzerland since late '14. I moved a lot and would leave IN and go back because of family and then get sick of it and leave again. I have a love/hate relationship with Indiana and Elkhart was one of my least favorite places.

Crash2Parties

(6,017 posts)
8. 'not a Trump enabler' Yes, yes you are. Maybe you don't celebrate him but by not speaking out...
Mon Oct 31, 2016, 12:44 AM
Oct 2016

you are indeed an enabler.

alarimer

(16,245 posts)
18. Anyone who thinks Americans are not just like the pre-WWII Germans is wrong.
Mon Oct 31, 2016, 09:08 AM
Oct 2016

Humans are the same everywhere. We are tribal; we all have innate prejudices. It is not difficult to whip us into a frenzy based on perceived injustices. There will ALWAYS be people who go along with anything in the false belief that it will save them.

We like to think Democrats are better than Republicans. Possibly it's true that we tend to be less authoritarian. But the silent majority is always silent for a reason, mostly out of fear. It can happen here; which is why we must resist all authoritarian impulses, by Republicans OR Democrats.

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
27. I've been saying the same a very long time. The good Germans stood by, thinking it was
Mon Oct 31, 2016, 01:36 PM
Oct 2016

a fad, that Hitler would fall by the wayside. Others just ignored it as politics as usual, and meanwhile it took root, some for the same reasons as in the US. Different times, different locations, different people, but it's the SOS, and it seems Trump read the Hitler playbook quite well.

kwolf68

(7,365 posts)
30. I like Robert and I agree with all this
Mon Oct 31, 2016, 02:26 PM
Oct 2016

But unless the Republican is willing to put his name to word, then this could have been said/written by anyone. I could create a "respectable Conservative" to cast the Orange Yam as deplorable and say it was from a "Republican friend". This is just a different way for Democrats to say what they believe about the Trump klan,
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