a number of abortions... how many? Who knows.

They must live in a cave isolated from any souces of information.

I don't' think so. You know, you can't always avoid the people who have different views from yourself. I don't want to isolate myself like that.

I just find it disconcerting that he takes Trump at his word that he's against abortion, when the man is clearly a obnoxious demagogue that will say anything to get elected. I guess I just believed he'd be smarter than that.

Maher explained. “Jesus healed the blind, Trump mocks the handicapped. Jesus turned the other cheek, Trump grabs your pussy. Jesus turned water into wine, Trump just whines. The Bible says, ‘Thou shalt not covet they neighbor’s wife.’ Trump says, ‘Fine, what about my daughter?'”

Despite all that, Maher said, “They went for the foul-mouthed, pussy-grabber.”

https://www.rawstory.com/2016/11/bill-maher-calls-out-trump-backing-evangelicals-for-what-they-are-shameless-hypocrites/

thanks for that link btw I'm going to post this on FB.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2016/10/11/christianity-today-blasts-trump-questions-support-for-someone-who-violates-all-that-is-sacred-to-us/

A number of prominent Republican politicians have denounced Trump too, but the vast majority of Republicans will still vote for him. Same here methinks.

OBVIOUSLY NOT a "man of God" and I couldn't believe him about anything anymore.
I think it was mentioned somewhere "Thou shalt not lie"

else. He's a zealot. He took the low road because it's easy, costs nothing to say you oppose abortions rather than deal realistically and compassionately with the women and their families who face such hard decisions. He doesn't want to face them or put in the effort to support them. Ask him how many people in his church are likely to have an abortion vs everyone who will be negatively impacted by Trump's views when his special craziness becomes the law of the land.

I suggest approaching him in the spirit of Christian brotherhood and find out what his thinking is. Be prepared to point out Trump's inconsistencies with Christian teachings, in a factual not judgmental way. You don't want him defending Trump, just acknowledging that Trump's public behavior and pronouncements aren't really in line with the teachings of your pastor's profession. You don't have to dunk his head in the water, but lead him right to the basin and invite him to drink.

http://bipartisanreport.com/2016/09/09/just-in-barbara-bush-verbally-dissects-any-woman-who-votes-for-donald-trump-video/

The former First Lady was recently on “CBS This Morning” when she was asked her opinion on Republican nominee, Donald Trump. Mrs. Bush didn’t mince words in her response:

“He’s like a comedian, or like a showman or something[…] I don’t know how women can vote for someone who said what he said about Megyn Kelly. It’s terrible. And we knew what he meant, too.”

It was quite obvious what Trump was talking about when he said that Megyn Kelly went after him because she had: “Blood coming out of her wherever.”
Mrs. Bush didn’t take kindly to this crass and misogynistic statement referring to a woman’s menstrual cycle, and playing on the stereotype of female mental instability one week out of every month.

What Trump doesn’t understand, is that he is far more mentally unstable than any woman in the throes of her natural menstrual cycle, and that at least having his period would be a valid excuse for frequent verbal diarrhea. This is an excuse Donald Trump can never use, however. So why, Donald? If it’s not your period, what the hell is wrong with you?

Video courtesy of YouTube:

Pretty much nails Trump's brand of "christianity". As for any Christian, be they clergy or layman, that believes Trump will abolish abortion, well the Bible is pretty liberal in it's use of the word FOOL.

Republicans kill me. They only care about life as long it's still in the womb. They couldn't care less about the lives of African Americans, Latinos, women, children...etc., that are already out womb.

They know that Trump is a vile, blasphemous demogogue but they're willing to look past that in hopes that he'll delegate everything to Pence, who they KNOW is anti-choice.

some social....are you a member of the congregation family

some spiritual.....do what they say make sense and feed you as it were

some simple logistics....know a family that drive 45 minutes on the freeway each way....i don't think so

i left and returned to the church i grew up with....my moms church. I go and i feel i am supposed to be there. Not all that sure why yet.....but i am supposed to be there....(not going to say calling cause that phrase creeps me out)

Mutt for you the equation at your church just changed with your pastors stance.....Will it drive you away?
I can not answer that...figure it out on your own...

i wish you luck just remember there are perhaps other churches that would love to have you...but alas
the perfect church is a rare thing....seems everything has warts


good luck