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Stinky The Clown

(67,799 posts)
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 03:00 PM Jun 2012

Today is Juneteenth. Should it be a national holiday?

Today is Emancipation Day, the day slavery was ended in the US. It is a recognized holiday in some states, but not all. Some would hold that each state is free to observe a holiday, or not. I guess I can see that with events or people that are not national.

Emancipation was a national event. As such, it seems to me, the notion of a holiday is a national, not local or state, matter.

So . . . . . Do you think today ought to be a national holiday? Why or why not?

For me, this day seems as important as the 4th of July. It seems more important than the celebration of some men's birthdays. Our country came to be on the 4th of July. A number of our citizens came to be citizens, able to participate, finally, after generations of slavery, on this day. Is that not the second most important holiday we can observe?

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Today is Juneteenth. Should it be a national holiday? (Original Post) Stinky The Clown Jun 2012 OP
Why not? dogman Jun 2012 #1
No JustAnotherGen Jun 2012 #2
+5 Liberal_in_LA Jun 2012 #12
I have to say I heard of it before but now I know what it means. I am surprised that it isn't southernyankeebelle Jun 2012 #3
I was raised in Connecticut. We learned about it in school. The day was observed. Stinky The Clown Jun 2012 #13
Well you come from the Northeast. That says alot, your state is advanced. southernyankeebelle Jun 2012 #14
yes. HiPointDem Jun 2012 #4
Yes WilliamPitt Jun 2012 #5
Yes. annabanana Jun 2012 #6
How is that not a holiday already? limpyhobbler Jun 2012 #7
Yes! intheflow Jun 2012 #8
Yes. At the very least, more people should know what it is petronius Jun 2012 #9
Yes, Sir, It ought To Be The Magistrate Jun 2012 #10
Hell yeah! daaron Jun 2012 #11
Not just yes, but hell yes! Zalatix Jun 2012 #15
yes but the south might not go along. hrmjustin Jun 2012 #16
oh, yeah.... Blue_Tires Jun 2012 #17
Well, June is in serious need of a holiday... Ter Jun 2012 #18

dogman

(6,073 posts)
1. Why not?
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 03:09 PM
Jun 2012

The problem that I see is what does National Holiday mean? Who observes these days now that there is no middle class to enjoy them? My Union gave up Veteran's Day many years ago. No one wanted an unpaid day off and there were few Veterans to care. An individual could still honor the day by not working, but this is hardly the environment to demand your rights. Most big box stores are open 364 days a year.

JustAnotherGen

(31,823 posts)
2. No
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 03:14 PM
Jun 2012

Juneteenth was the day our 'last' ancestors in Texas were informed by Union soldiers that they were emancipated. If we recognize the day nationally - - it should be the 1863 date.

But I still put collards in one crock pot and pork roast in another for a mid week dinner celebrating Miss Gracie - my great great grandmother who was black/seminole mix slave at the end of the war.

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
3. I have to say I heard of it before but now I know what it means. I am surprised that it isn't
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 03:42 PM
Jun 2012

celebrated in some way. Even if they didn't make it a national holiday it should be taught in schools and mentioned on the airwaves to remind people. You know how hard it is just to get a paid holiday because it costs corporations. You know they don't want to come off that dime. But it would be nice to see a holiday. That is the least that america can do to repair the damage they have done. But honestly at this time I doubt any holiday for anyone would be approved because of the recession.

Stinky The Clown

(67,799 posts)
13. I was raised in Connecticut. We learned about it in school. The day was observed.
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 07:40 PM
Jun 2012

I'm not sure what happens now, but back when I was a kid (Moby Dick was a minnow then) it was a school event every year I also seem to recall some wider civic observance.

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
14. Well you come from the Northeast. That says alot, your state is advanced.
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 08:32 PM
Jun 2012

I lived all over the place and I don't remember it ever being disgusted. But it should be remembered.

annabanana

(52,791 posts)
6. Yes.
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 04:00 PM
Jun 2012

As it stands right now there IS no National Holiday encouraging us to look the accomplishment of overcoming one of the most shameful chapters of our history.

limpyhobbler

(8,244 posts)
7. How is that not a holiday already?
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 04:39 PM
Jun 2012

Celebrating the end of slavery is just as important as any of our current holidays. More so really.

Also I say yes to any new holidays since I think people are tired and need a day off to rest their legs.

petronius

(26,602 posts)
9. Yes. At the very least, more people should know what it is
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 06:31 PM
Jun 2012

But I agree that it's an event that deserves more formal national recognition. I like your comparison to July 4...

 

daaron

(763 posts)
11. Hell yeah!
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 06:34 PM
Jun 2012

I'm a white guy, but as a kid my dad took the family to 5-points in Denver and we celebrated Juneteenth with the rest of America. It may have been Emancipation Day for the slaves, but their freedom has emancipated us all from the ugly chains of U.S. prehistory.

That's when we started acting like the good guys for the very first time.

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