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WiffenPoof

(2,404 posts)
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 03:40 PM Jun 2012

Okay...I really Hate Those NOTW Stickers

Every time I see one I can't help but think how "selfish" these people are. The same goes for home-schoolers. So, you are Not Of This World...that explains a lot. You choose not to participate in the welfare of society...just screw it then? People who choose to abandon the public school system are even worse. So, you don't want to contribute to the overall improvement of our school systems? You would rather just withhold yourself as a human resource for the benefit of others? I just don't get it.

Yes...I know that some of you here home school...great. I can completely appreciate that you want to "protect" your child from the evils of the public school system. I get that. But do you have to do it at the cost to the rest of us?

-P

Sorry...I'm in a sour mood today.

-P

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Okay...I really Hate Those NOTW Stickers (Original Post) WiffenPoof Jun 2012 OP
I misread your post title... KansDem Jun 2012 #1
Where did you grow up? antigone382 Jun 2012 #2
We Are On The Same Page... WiffenPoof Jun 2012 #8
They are practically on every car in So Cal! Initech Jun 2012 #3
I'm no theologian...but maybe they're misinterpreting it. CJCRANE Jun 2012 #4
My first thought was "News of the Weird" xfundy Jun 2012 #5
Now NOTW is getting into this "Truth Soul Armor" - it's a mystical battle you know... haele Jun 2012 #6
Never seen one. JHB Jun 2012 #7
Me too. Hell, I am PROUD OF THIS WORLD Taverner Jun 2012 #9
I don't even know what that means ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jun 2012 #10
Well, it's a heresy, but also the best interpretation of the Christ's words cthulu2016 Jun 2012 #11
Haters going to hate Kykid Aug 2014 #12
Not quite accurate... Jen1431 Nov 2016 #13

KansDem

(28,498 posts)
1. I misread your post title...
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 03:57 PM
Jun 2012

I thought "Not W"--



But I haven't seen the NOTW stickers yet. Thanks for enlightening me if and when if I do.

antigone382

(3,682 posts)
2. Where did you grow up?
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 04:00 PM
Jun 2012

Because I grew up in some towns that had absolutely piss-poor public education systems where my brothers were abused by their teachers. We were pulled out and home-schooled until I was in high school. I absolutely support the public school system and would never say that my taxes should not go to it or that everything possible should not be done to improve it. But as things stand now, the authoritarian power-structures at the schools I went to, and the lack of adequate education, were not things to which I would subject a child--not a "human resource to be used for the benefit of others." I want those things to improve. I want teachers to be paid decently and to be given the freedom to teach with passion and innovation rather than to the dictates of a standardized test. I want school to be egalitarian and always a genuinely free, publicly run venture in which the classism and profit have no place. But if the school district in which I live is going to do damage to my child I am not going to leave him or her in that setting. Ever.

I don't have any idea what the NOTW stickers are about, as I haven't seen one. I do know that if not every student is cut out for public school at present, and doing your best to promote the health, well-being, and learning ability of an individual child is in no way selfish.

WiffenPoof

(2,404 posts)
8. We Are On The Same Page...
Wed Jun 20, 2012, 06:35 PM
Jun 2012

As I state in the OP...I understand why some parents want to protect their children from the dangers of the current Public School System(s). I would feel the same. However, I would also encourage people who home school to contribute an equal amount of time in working towards improving the public school system. It is the future of our country...unless the Department of Education is disbanded as some Republicans support. I don't blame parents for trying to protect their children. It's only natural. Some parents cannot afford to home school - time wise and financially. They have no choice but to use public schools. As more and more people start homeschooling, the less resources are available to improve a once very effective public school system. The fact that public schools have failed miserably is no reason to abandon them. This is the time to invest in them, to pay the teachers a living wage and to provide the resources they need to be successful.

-P

Initech

(100,076 posts)
3. They are practically on every car in So Cal!
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 04:01 PM
Jun 2012

What I don't get are the "peace and love" ones - if you read history - religion has been the cause of much death and destruction in this world. As George Carlin once said - religion is the leading cause of death on this planet!

CJCRANE

(18,184 posts)
4. I'm no theologian...but maybe they're misinterpreting it.
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 04:02 PM
Jun 2012
7:14 I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.
17:15 I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil.
17:16 They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.
17:17 Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.
17:18 As thou hast sent me into the world, even so have I also sent them into the world.


It seems to be saying that Christians should be in the world but their ideas should be not of this world (i.e. from a higher source).

I would interpret that to mean do good works in the world, not separate yourself from it. But maybe that's just me.

xfundy

(5,105 posts)
5. My first thought was "News of the Weird"
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 04:19 PM
Jun 2012

Which will, no doubt, cover lots of those with these stickers eventually.

haele

(12,654 posts)
6. Now NOTW is getting into this "Truth Soul Armor" - it's a mystical battle you know...
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 05:02 PM
Jun 2012

Holier than thou's against the rest of us sinners.

I've been seeing this for the past year now.

NOTW has always been a gimmik to attract the middle class video-gamer/skateboard slacker crowd to "religion" without the difficulty of actually reading the bible or responsible, critical thinking on the nature of human ethics and morality.

Not as bad as the "Joel's Army" hyper-Xtian youth training camp groups, but there is still that undercurrent of belonging to some sort of "special secret better guys" club marketed to those with low self-esteem and rapidly decreasing opportunities that NOTW gets most of their profit from.

Yes, I'm a bit vicious about this sort of thing, but they are the ones declaring a holy war against even their own who don't fall in line.

Haele

cthulu2016

(10,960 posts)
11. Well, it's a heresy, but also the best interpretation of the Christ's words
Wed Jun 20, 2012, 06:38 PM
Jun 2012

My complaint is with Christians being OF this world and fucking with my short atheist life despite their savior's unambiguous instructions to renounce the world, quit their job, give away all possessions and praise God while awaiting the end of the world, which Jesus said would occur before 100AD.

Kykid

(1 post)
12. Haters going to hate
Wed Aug 20, 2014, 07:12 PM
Aug 2014

It just goes to show, if you want to hate somebody any ole excuse will do. i.e. a sticker lol Come on man. If you or anybody else wants to hate God and His children you have the power to choose this hate. I can't choose for you. For myself, I don't need a sticker, I show what I am by loving my neighbor.

Jen1431

(1 post)
13. Not quite accurate...
Sun Nov 6, 2016, 01:33 PM
Nov 2016

Hey!
So.. i have those stickers on my car. But being a Christian who did not grow up in a church, became a Christian later in life - I get why you all feel this way. But you're not undertanding scripture correct or what the sticker is saying. Not of this world should mean we do not care about the normal idols of this world such as fashion, drama, celeb stuff, political fighting, hatred, jealousy and everything else that is worldly. True all of us were created the same. But when a person truly makes a commitment to follow Jesus, God steps in and begins to change a person to become more and more like Jesus. He changes our hearts from the inside resulting in an outward difference on one's life - desires, wants, cares, attitudes, etc.. true many people with the label Christian are not actually allowing the Holy Spirit to change their heart, thus the reason they are seen as such hypocrites... but God is real, so there is actualy real change when a person seeks him wholeheartedly. I cannot believe how different I see the world now as I am growing in my relationship with God. I dont have anger at what you wrote, I understand it of course. And I want you all to know that God loves you guys so much and so do I. Anyways, Jesus is amazing. And NotW stickers represent being excellent in this world. Not of this world and all the negative stuff, but in this world and striving to change the world for the better. Because thats what God wants, to bless everyone and make the world a more loving place.

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