filibuster or by an actual vote if we pull a couple of moderate repubicans to our side.

proposal. Because what goes around, comes around. If they kill the filibuster, they will be seen as being nothing more than the house which is run by mob rule. Yes. Ego and elitism.

if they use violence(already are) against me? No chance I'll turn the other cheek. Yeah we can all, the many millions of decent americans, stand up to the trumpfuhrer ameriKKKa. Yet the fact is, stop and frisk will become normalized/NATIONALIZED even for the AA who voted for the orange fuhrer. Deportation force is distinct possibility, even for those muslims who voted for the orange fuhrer, even for the latinos who voted for the orange fuhrer. I won't go into the implications of these types of assault on AA which will probably be carried out by trumpfuhrer brownshirts and roundups of immigrants and muslims by the same brownshirt force. Self evident. Nice will not work any longer.

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We actually have power, we need to organize it. That half of America that doesn't ever bother to vote can be tapped into because Trump is a horror.

I have an ARNP friend who is busy providing IUDs for women, there are already organizations that provide underground abortions and birth control-- they are about to get busier. I live in Seattle--a city that loves protests--the organizers group city to city, and although the protests have died down, they are getting their second wind. Thank God for Black Lives Matter--they have a strong ground game and kids from my neighborhood middle and high schools were chanting "Black Lives Matter" ---that the BLM message has reached the children is profound. We have Muslims in every walk of life and they will exert influence as well.

They is a groundswell of resistance, I missed the sixties and times like that will not come again, but we may see something similar. Everyone of decent intent and heart is pissed off to some degree. From the Sierra club to the ACLU--we are NOT alone. And yeah, it's going to be rough, but progressives aren't sitting around hugging trees and picking flowers. We have always resisted, violently OR non-violently--something that's about to be rediscovered

Isaac Asimov said that "violence is the last resort of the incompetent."

Please, don't mention violence in on-line forums. Who knows what the upcoming administration could/would do regarding such comments. They have little to no regard for the 1st Amendment.

Enough said.

Perhaps I put it badly. Historically, the left has used whatever it had too, to obtain goals. Yet we are called "hippies" and "treehuggers" to this day--which is so weird to me--and it is implied, we are weak, without resources, without true resolve, hypocritical, "womanish" in hetero-sexist parlance.

Not only is this not true-it has NEVER been true, no matter what forms the resistance take. If I excort a woman to an abortion clinic--I am NOT turning a cheek if I am attacked--I think that is the point.

Follow the king of Denmarks world war II example...another poster thought of this...so I can't take credit. But it is a good idea.

http://www.snopes.com/history/govern/yellowstars.asp

Jews in Denmark were never required to wear the Star of David.

I had a Danish boss in the UN and he told me a common joke about Danish exaggerations about the underground: "If all of the Danes who claimed to be in the underground after the war were actually in the underground they could have successfully marched on Berlin". Virtually every post war Danish politician claimed a roll in the underground.

I always believed this piece of history. Thanks for the Snopes link to the truth.

I also take solace in the fact that years after the events the Danes poked fun at themselves for exaggerating their underground exploits.

8000 Jews...almost all of them were rowed across the sea to Sweden. It was very heroic. Sadly, today
anti-Semitism is on the rise in Europe includes Denmark.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_Denmark

I was horrified but not surprised when this suggestion raised its ugly head again. More horrifying still was using the WWII Japanese Internment as precedent.

My older son, equally horrified, sent along a tweet (can't recall the user name) which made the following suggestion:

If these crackpots try implementing the registry then millions of Americans of all faiths (or lack there of) should voluntarily register as Muslim, converts for a day if you will, but citizens all willing to stand shoulder-to-shoulder with neighbors, business owners, mother and fathers, teachers, doctors--what have you--and send a clear message: this will not stand. Because when the rights of one group are trampled, the rights of everyone are trampled.

To me, this idea makes a lot of sense and would throw a monkey wrench into any viable listings, and it's an act of conscience. And yes, without resistance, this mentality could be a sickening downward spiral.

Because the world has seen this before.

I wonder if one has to prove they're Muslim?

I could get on board with this idea.

If so, I'm afraid I have to concur.