Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
Sat Nov 19, 2016, 01:00 PM Nov 2016

In 1920, Mencken predicted Trump:

Henry Louis Mencken, a prominent newspaperman and political commentator during the first half of the 20th century, writing for the Baltimore Evening Sun on 26 July 1920, in an article entitled "Bayard vs. Lionheart" (and reprinted in the book On Politics: A Carnival of Buncombe), cynically opined on the difficulties of good men reaching national office when the scale of their campaigns precluded them from directly reaching out to large segments of the voting public:

The larger the mob, the harder the test. In small areas, before small electorates, a first-rate man occasionally fights his way through, carrying even the mob with him by force of his personality. But when the field is nationwide, and the fight must be waged chiefly at second and third hand, and the force of personality cannot so readily make itself felt, then all the odds are on the man who is, intrinsically, the most devious and mediocre — the man who can most easily adeptly disperse the notion that his mind is a virtual vacuum.

The Presidency tends, year by year, to go to such men. As democracy is perfected, the office represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. We move toward a lofty ideal.

On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.
11 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
In 1920, Mencken predicted Trump: (Original Post) dixiegrrrrl Nov 2016 OP
I do love cilla4progress Nov 2016 #1
What you just said is in line with this very good article "Obama Reckons with a Trump Presidency" dixiegrrrrl Nov 2016 #2
Thanks! cilla4progress Nov 2016 #3
I was encouraged cilla4progress Nov 2016 #5
Very prescient. smirkymonkey Nov 2016 #4
Just as the end result of unrestrained capitalism is the eventual destruction of the world workinclasszero Nov 2016 #7
Mencken on the American electorate: trof Nov 2016 #6
"it is assumed that they have ideas in their heads, and an appetite for more." dixiegrrrrl Nov 2016 #11
That Mencken quote has been on my mind, too. Along with the wonderful scene from Blazing Saddles... Hekate Nov 2016 #8
One of the greatest film clips ever Cyrano Nov 2016 #9
If you followed the . Wellstone ruled Nov 2016 #10

cilla4progress

(24,736 posts)
1. I do love
Sat Nov 19, 2016, 01:07 PM
Nov 2016

That he saw this coming 100 years ago.

So interesting the huge range from the elevated Fanfare for the Common Man to mob rule. The elements making the difference must be examined. Ignore the common folks at your own peril. Once you remove from them the hope of realistic
opportunity to advance, you shift resources away from them, they will turn on you and become unpredictable.

So strange and interesting that they turn to and not away from their oppressors. I guess seeking some shelter there.

cilla4progress

(24,736 posts)
3. Thanks!
Sat Nov 19, 2016, 01:26 PM
Nov 2016

Will read it. Reckoning is a word I've been thinking of a lot. I guess more in terms of the reckoning this country is going to have years from now after these dark days are over.

cilla4progress

(24,736 posts)
5. I was encouraged
Sat Nov 19, 2016, 02:33 PM
Nov 2016

By his statement about being a bridge to the social compact post- presidency.

The writing is on the wall: Obama is going to fill the role of leader of the Democrats / progressives going forward. He is the only one with the stature and the popularity and balls. I can even envision a coalition between him and the Bushes, to fight the fascism that Trump is bringing. And Romney, if he too has the moral backbone.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
7. Just as the end result of unrestrained capitalism is the eventual destruction of the world
Sat Nov 19, 2016, 02:46 PM
Nov 2016

..which is fast approaching...

When your nation becomes 51% brainwashed right wing drooling idiots, its all over but the cryin. Well it doesn't even take 51% because at least 40% or so don't vote.

Big Lie propaganda turned a culturally rich and educated Germany into a horrible furnace of death and destruction for man, woman and child.

The same thing is happening here. Hate radio, Fox news and CNN, MSNBC etc made it all possible.

Trump and Bannon are a giant leap forward into that hell on earth for this country.

trof

(54,256 posts)
6. Mencken on the American electorate:
Sat Nov 19, 2016, 02:37 PM
Nov 2016

“No one in this world, so far as I know — and I have searched the records for years, and employed agents to help me — has ever lost money by underestimating the intelligence of the great masses of the plain people. Nor has anyone ever lost public office thereby.”

In the column, Mencken continued his thoughts about the public’s choices in reading matter and politicians by adding:
“The mistake that is made always runs the other way. Because the plain people are able to speak and understand, and even, in many cases, to read and write, it is assumed that they have ideas in their heads, and an appetite for more. This assumption is a folly.”

Looking around at the media and political landscape today, Mencken’s opinion might be deemed more prescient than ever.

http://www.thisdayinquotes.com/2011/09/no-one-ever-went-broke-underestimating.html

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
11. "it is assumed that they have ideas in their heads, and an appetite for more."
Sat Nov 19, 2016, 03:43 PM
Nov 2016

As it happens, I am reading a book on social history in England in 1770-1800's....
and on the subject of education, there was a great argument among the ruling class as to the education of the ruled class.
class distinctions being extremely fixed in that period.

The NAY side of the argument was that the lower classes, ( and women of all classes) if taught to read, would get ideas and not be manageable.

YEA side argued the benefit that at least they could read the Bible for moral instruction and thus be better off.

Sadly, the ability to manage the alphabet is no longer an important distinction in these days of Fox News and Facebook/Twitter.
As Trump, not exactly an over achiever in literacy, has shown.

Hekate

(90,708 posts)
8. That Mencken quote has been on my mind, too. Along with the wonderful scene from Blazing Saddles...
Sat Nov 19, 2016, 02:46 PM
Nov 2016

"You know -- morons."



Cyrano

(15,041 posts)
9. One of the greatest film clips ever
Sat Nov 19, 2016, 02:52 PM
Nov 2016

because it's how we liberals feel about ... the morons.

Perhaps that was an unfair judgement.

But then, unfortunately, the morons confirmed our judgement by electing our current nightmare.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
10. If you followed the .
Sat Nov 19, 2016, 03:25 PM
Nov 2016

Brexit unfolding in England,and you understood the who are the real Puppet Masters,then you understand what just happened here in the USA. Same messaging of blaming a group within your Society for all your Social and Economic Ills. Then make some Bull Crap theme that resonates with the rest of Society.
Bottom line is,who gains by this method,the very wealthy once again. We are about to see the greatest wealth transfer in world History. Public manipulation via the Press(Murdoch),Hedge Fund(Mercer),Political Stooge(Boris Johnson-Donald Trump)and a lay down audio and video Media(FOX News/NBC/MSNBC and ABC and CBS repeating the same false equivalency).

For those who think the Ninety Nine per cent will not be affected,oh boy,think again. Watch for the raid on Social Security and the elimination of Medicare and Medicade. And by the way, big time Income Tax increases for all of us that make less than a 52k net a year. That is about 80% of thea Americ.n Populace.

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»In 1920, Mencken predicte...