They were racists from the start.

Herr Drumpf is a natural fit for the pinebaggers.

Posters here well there are a lot of cross overs between the two sites. Post here and also there at the same time and not sure what to think of those posters except caution on any of thier DU threads or comment slants on current events .

Not surprised in the least. I hope they stay there, they deserve each other.

That one - is a real piece of work. Didn't fool me for a nanosecond.

Look at that clown blaming the Clintons, as if Trump has no responsibility for being an asshole of the highest order. The Clintons made it all happen. Truly clueless people.

Not surprising

Trumps children looked like well-heeled, massaged and manicured and comfortable entitled--as well as repulsive--assholes at the debates. Whence this "looked frightened" shit?

And here he sought to give the impression he was a high minded idealist, looking down with pity and disdain on those of us in the common political muck---but generously offering the true wisdom only to be found by listening and agreeing with every word he could fit into a post. And he turns out he's a Trump defender with the shattered liberal cred of Dubya's keyboard.

My, my.

exactly? Not liking him doesn't mean he supports Trump.

Seriously?

I think it must be a requirement on that board, from my couple of brief peeks, that every post (and at the very least every thread) must contain hate material about the Clintons. Now the once-proud self-proclaimed defenders of the downtrodden are singing the praises of the very candidate who couldn't care less about them--to the extent that he knows they are there to begin with.

Their mentality seems to be that as long as his name isn't Clinton, it doesn't matter to them one bit that "there is nothing remotely empathetic, humane or progressive about him."

When I took my brief looks, it seemed like a board inhabited by a group of very angry and exceedingly unhappy people. This post doesn't exactly serve to alter that impression.

There is nothing remotely empathetic, progressive, humane or democratic about him.

None of the three of them would have built upon Obama's vision, and been able to get programs and legislation started from day one. There was one candidate who not only could have done that, but also had a good chance to win the election, something the other three did not.. That candidate was also empathetic, progressive, humane AND democratic. She also happened to get over a million more votes than Trump did. Maybe WAY more, we don't know the full story of possible manipulations yet.

And the Clintons are nowhere near the protests being voiced about our Buffooner-In-Chief.
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it seems to fit.

I feel like I'm living in that sci-fi story with two Earths that separate. One is a continuation of this, the other a quantum leap into the one we want to live in. I hope we figure out how to land on the good Earth!

trolls went.

This place lost a lot of unreasonable people. No more needing to explain the difference between FDR's Congress and Obama's, the difficulties of governing as a progressive in post-1965 America and being labeled as a corporate sellout for your trouble. For instance.

For good I hope...

From Skinner's welcome back post:

"Which brings me to my final point. I said previously that I regret letting Democratic Underground become a haven over the last eight years for people who were contemptuous of President Obama and their fellow DU members. With the election behind us, my opinion has not changed. I spent much of the last eight years deeply disappointed by some of the things that people posted here, and compared to that ugliness I thoroughly enjoyed the period of relative unity and respect that we experienced during this year’s general election season. Going forward, Democratic Underground is going to continue to be a place for friendly, liberal people who support Democrats. If that describes you, welcome home."

These people created their own stinkhole during the primaries, and I hope they all stay there.

Soon as trump had the closed door, no press hour & half with Obama. Obama got his agreement about NATO to tell to Americas allies (and he did in recent pressers), and comit to two major ACA provisions. (also covered in pressers)

We're going to -make him- do the right thing! Count on it.

They successfully defeated their object of hatred. Now they rally around the fascist they chose over her.

Can we stop the pretense of calling them progressives. They are no different from any other white male supremacist who sought to make America great--white--again. Watching his cabinet appointments already should cause any decent human being distress, of course there is nothing decent about the jackholes. I wish those Nazis verything they so richly deserve.

It was easily predictable in the run up to the election, as the only requisite was an anti-Hillary post. Many posts there were people declaring they would cast a vote for Donald Trump and imploring others to follow suit - only to take down Clinton of course. LOL

Now it's time to clean house but Manny may discover that the dirt and cobwebs were all that was holding the site together in these months past. As the Clintons fall into quiet post-election repose there will be little common ground for active discussion.

is the height of irony.

King Troll and his little Prince, Stockholm Willy.

Sid

like trump, blame the media. For me, it took only my own dirsct observations f trump's words to see the red flags all over this s man & his candidacy. From there, my alarm-bell-driven search for information on him as nly heightened my fears. MSM, my ass. "pro-Clnton MSM", my ass. trump children afraid, "poor things"? Bite me

Irrational and filled with seething, blinding hatred.

Coming to the aid and defense of a misogynist, rapist, racist, bigoted, narcissistic, hateful goon who gleefully traffics in the most base of human emotions and instincts.

Is this a current DU member who goes about the world stumping for Trump?


How peculiar. Yes. How very odd.

.....

Puckerbutt Pence and the Trumpettes are the worst American band ever.

They all stink.

Unfortunately the deplorables will never own up to this. They'll not blame the horrors to come on the faces they saw in the mirrors whilst they were stumbling around vaguely wondering about the presence or absence of urinals in the restrooms they were puking in.

Republicans have made voter suppression and gerrymandering a high art. That will be the end of them. They rubbed the lamp of the jackass genie and they got what they wished for.

But nope, the reality shows and TV "news" are not reality.

On the world stage Trump is already a loser.

has spoke of President Obama with disdain. Trump has spoken of so many with disdain, he should not expect any respect in which he has not given. McConnell said he wanted to do everything to make Obama as a one term president, they failed, Trump will provide lots of reasons to be investigated, lots of bad talking points, we will not give Trump a pass just because the Republicans have.

Are Trump fans unless you're being dishonest.

Ti Everyone!

Things change, and JPR’s a thing. So JPR changes.

Things were utterly bizarro before last week’s election, and there were no non-bizarro alternatives, so JPR’s Admins just sat and watched in a state of shock.

Now that the election’s over, we think that the battle lines are clear: JPR is a site for Progressives, Trump ain’t a Progressive, so Trump is on the other side of the battle lines from us. Henceforth, posts that praise Trump in a general way will likely go into the void. But it’s OK to praise something specific that’s connected to Trump, like his putative student loan repayment plan.
All three Admins have had enough of the nuttiness that’s been going on here: “Trump’s not a bad guy, really“, world Zionist conspiracies and so forth. Matariki, being by far the most sane of us, is taking a hiatus. Could be forever, could be shorter than that: we certainly hope it’s the latter, because she’s awesome, and because SHE BUILT THIS SITE.
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just saying.

And I have no idea why he's been banned but from what I see is consistently left wing rather than right wing. DU may have made a mistake which they often do.

Y'all are welcome to him. I won't argue about your perceived merits of JPR, I hope you spoke out loudly against Trump over there. I hope you voted for Hillary.

I mostly posted over there because DU was down but I came across a lot of DUers I like and admire like Octafish so I'll likely continue to come back.

He normalizes those with racist and homophobic opinions, because he agrees with their economic opinions.

Sid

He is one of the main ones over there bashing Trump between election day and when DU opened where I have been spending most of my time here but still go there to read some of the their posters like Octafish and some post here too.

He normalizes them, despite their racist and homophobic opinions, because they say something else that he agrees with.

They should be shunned, not promoted the way that Octafish promoted them.

I'm glad he decamped for JPR. He fits right in over there with the other Trump supporters.

Sid

Just another whiny Conservative masquerading as progressive. Good riddance to him.
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But I'm sure most from people who are who they say they are.

Everyone of his posts was designed to get DU'ers divided and at each other's throats.

He was banned for advocating "Bernie or Bust."

My initial impression of him was that he was GOP operative posing as a "progressive" in order to attack Democrats from the left. But as I said before, he's a shape shifter.

Manny.

I don't know him personally but I take things said on the internet at face value unless I have evidence supporting otherwise because internet discussions are difficult enough with troll accusations here, there, everywhere.

But a fair number of us were wise to his little games.

You sound like a very good person and I appreciate your point of view of giving everyone the benefit of the doubt. Hats off to you!

After years of trying to communicate with the slippery devil, he became one of only three people I've ever put on full ignore.

Since his forced departure, I've spotted his return twice under not-very-subtle variations of his first moniker.

But there are some good people over there. I actually donated—I kind of regret it now. Haven't gone back since I saw a post that had right-wing written all over it, commented on it, and got slammed.

which says,

I will tell the poster to f--k himself or herself and take the hide.

are welcome here.

There are a couple people that post here who made it clear on JPR that they voted Hillary. They are welcome here. Third party voters, non-voters, Trump voters are not.

I preferred Bernie's message and the desire to shake the trees during the primaries, but once the primaries were over, the debate was over for me.

Nobody has ever implied any such thing to me.

as a sig graphic on JPR.

That place is a cesspool.

They are appalled that there is a movement to sway the electors to switch their votes to Clinton. Many of them hate Obama as well.

and I got the willies. Too much hate, too much divisiveness, too much blame, just too much anti everything we as a country stand for.

I was so happy to get back on-line with DemocraticUnderground. I'll never take this place for granted again, I promise.

I am/was a bernie bro, (in that I supported him,) but I proudly voted for Hillary and if I had it to do again I'd do the same, vote for Hillary. I'm a 100% Democratic Party animal, simple as that

All I know is that Trump and everything he represents is the enemy and I have zero interest in doing battle with other members of the left. I am doing my best to ignore posts here that lead to internecine warfare.

Some of the things I read there made me sick to my stomach, literally sick

So Fuck 'em.

And yes, I'm 4 Goldschlagers in for a 50th birthday party.

Sid

they don't deserve my clicks.

this is a progressive, liberal what. Jackass???? I am so sick of watching people making trumpfuhrer a goddamn victim. Hell white people are not victims in this country. For the most part they have historically, socially been the victimizers of all people not like them especially the Red and Brown peoples of this nation. I wish JPR and theirc ilk would quietly kiss my ass and go away.

Fuck you. <<<< the only two words you are worth

For DSB, I beg, plead, implore and whatever other synonyms come to mind, please stay away from JPR. If there were ever any posters in that sewer who were anything other than TrumpTrolls posing as Bernie supporters to split our Party, they are nothing but trolls spewing shit now.

The thing about shit is that you don't have to pick it up to make you sick, you just have to get close enough to smell it.

We do not need you getting sick.

Like those 30 years of public service where she was supposed to have fixed the tax code, reformed the health care system, solved climate change, and taken care of every other damn thing in the world.

In any case, I hope that particular brand of madness fades away. The traditional rule of US politics is "the president takes the blame". Obama will be leaving the country in very good shape, and I'm fully prepared to invoke the basic rule for every problem that arises after Jan 20 - fair play.

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A man or woman of the left embracing Trump is like a chicken embracing Colonel Sanders.

...and its a bit ridiculous. I never really looked at it much, but it just seems like a bunch of random off-their-meds posters at the moment. Discussions about whether or not to support trump, or how much trump support will be tolerated are most lively, and interspersed liberally with large bits of over-digested hillary hate.

Couple things.

I get it we are all frustrated. It's a coping mechanism. I shot thru there when DU was down. I saw many names there I have respect for. You shouldn't generalize.

FR aren't former members of DU... well not most of them.

I see your posts here... They're good... Well most of them. I respect your commitment.


Carry on. Best.

The suggestion that Trump hasn't earned the enmity he receives is ...


Best.

Now that we all go into opposition against the beast maybe some over there will open their eyes and see Trump for the fascist he is.

If that's doing it right, I'm happy to be wrong.

Putin lovin boot lickers.

Clintons touched you.

Then shut the fuck up and go the fuck away.

You might want to think about the absurdity of what you just said.

hate-filled DINO extremists and PUMAs.

Who gives a fuck?

MUAH

To teddy bears, etc to soothe them. And then in the next breath, go on to say how Trump needs his family to soothe him in this transition.

Difference being of course one is a young adult entering the world for the first time and the other is the F*cking President-elect of the United States. Holy crazy batshit balls!