Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

drmeow

(5,019 posts)
Wed Nov 23, 2016, 01:08 AM Nov 2016

Seeking newpaper recommendations

As many have pointed out, we need to start supporting good journalism. I would be the first to admit that I have not been good about this so I want to change that.

I don't particularly like the NY Times (I know it is considered liberal by many but I have never found it to be so and I don't really like their style).

Despite their endorsement of Clinton, I simply cannot bring myself to subscribe to my local paper, the Arizona Republic (I had some bad experiences with them when I did subscribe).

I would subscribe to The Guardian but I'm not sure if subscribing to a British paper would have the same importance/impact.

I am considering the Washington Post.

Realistically I'm probably not likely to read a lot of the paper so I'm also wondering if a news magazine would be better (The Nation, perhaps?).

I don't like either style of The Atlantic and I feel that The Economist has a bias I'm not comfortable with (although I don't know if I could identify what the bias is).

I am also going to donate to Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting in addition to my longstanding subscription.

I know there are many, many members of the DU community who are much better consumers of the media than I am and I trust this community to have good and fair recommendations.

So, what would you recommend and why?

34 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Seeking newpaper recommendations (Original Post) drmeow Nov 2016 OP
Magazines radical noodle Nov 2016 #1
Thank you! drmeow Nov 2016 #2
You're welcome radical noodle Nov 2016 #4
Yes, there is a serious lack of drmeow Nov 2016 #15
The Nation is excellent. Been a long time subscriber. octoberlib Nov 2016 #3
I used to subscribe drmeow Nov 2016 #13
Check them out on newseum link. yortsed snacilbuper Nov 2016 #5
Thanks eom drmeow Nov 2016 #7
Here are some bdamomma Nov 2016 #6
Thanks eom drmeow Nov 2016 #12
The Guardian & The BBC Lithos Nov 2016 #8
I considered the Guardian drmeow Nov 2016 #11
The media in the US is weak and either single issue or profit driven Lithos Nov 2016 #14
I'm in Phoenix drmeow Nov 2016 #17
I've found the Student papers can be better Lithos Nov 2016 #18
the BBC does a better job of covering the United States than most of the US Media does . BBC is free JI7 Nov 2016 #30
For online burrowowl Nov 2016 #9
English and a little Spanish drmeow Nov 2016 #10
The financial papers have the best news data and most current news. CK_John Nov 2016 #16
I complain a lot about The Washington Post but rely on it. CBHagman Nov 2016 #19
Thanks drmeow Nov 2016 #20
Pretty much the usual -- choice of front-page above-the-fold stories... CBHagman Nov 2016 #22
To give them credit drmeow Nov 2016 #23
The Post does help with zeroing in on specific issues... CBHagman Nov 2016 #27
Great question. lovemydog Nov 2016 #21
In doing more investigating drmeow Nov 2016 #28
thank you lovemydog Nov 2016 #29
You can get Washington Post online for free if you have an edu or gov email address Hamlette Nov 2016 #24
I no longer have an edu drmeow Nov 2016 #25
Is there a regional paper you like that does good investigative work? LeftyMom Nov 2016 #26
Unfortunately I do not eom drmeow Nov 2016 #33
WA Post has been the best national paper this election season. And I realized a while ago pnwmom Nov 2016 #31
Yes, I've been noticing they drmeow Nov 2016 #32
They had some reporters doing hard investigative pieces that few other pnwmom Nov 2016 #34

radical noodle

(8,003 posts)
4. You're welcome
Wed Nov 23, 2016, 01:16 AM
Nov 2016

I love Mother Jones. David Corn is a favorite. Newsweeks Kurt Eichenwald has been right on top of Trump during the entire campaign. He's had death threats but keeps on fighting the Trumpsters. New Yorker often has good articles, but I don't subscribe.

My doctor suggest AlJazeera for world news (something we rarely get in the US).

drmeow

(5,019 posts)
15. Yes, there is a serious lack of
Wed Nov 23, 2016, 10:38 PM
Nov 2016

reasonable coverage of world events.

My focus, however, for this question is specifically where to spend my news related dollars rather than just where to get the best news. The idea is to support US journalism in order to help keep Trumps feet to the fire.

Lithos

(26,403 posts)
8. The Guardian & The BBC
Wed Nov 23, 2016, 10:15 PM
Nov 2016
https://www.theguardian.com/us
https://www.bbc.com

The Guardian is an excellent news source

Washington Post is also good from a US standpoint.

If you're spending money and want something with a higher level standard - The Economist used to be good, even though the slant was center-right.



There are many you should not use such as the Russian Times - a leader in Fake news.

drmeow

(5,019 posts)
11. I considered the Guardian
Wed Nov 23, 2016, 10:35 PM
Nov 2016

but I'm really interested in supporting US journalism.

I got tired of the center-right slant of the Economist - most of our media in this country are right or corporate leaning. I'd like to see some support for the left point of view.

Lithos

(26,403 posts)
14. The media in the US is weak and either single issue or profit driven
Wed Nov 23, 2016, 10:38 PM
Nov 2016

You do better sometimes with blogs, though most of the good ones curate global links.

Mother Jones is good, so is the Rolling Stone. To be honest, I've better luck with my local Indy - "austinchronicle.com" than any paper here.

Some college papers might be good as well, though they are definitely variable in their quality.

L-

drmeow

(5,019 posts)
17. I'm in Phoenix
Thu Nov 24, 2016, 12:24 AM
Nov 2016

I don't have much hope for either the Arizona Republic or ASU's paper!

The Tucson paper is much better, one I'm considering.

Lithos

(26,403 posts)
18. I've found the Student papers can be better
Thu Nov 24, 2016, 12:39 AM
Nov 2016

Or the indy paper - which in my case is the Austin Chronicle. In Atlanta it's called Creative Loafing. Much better than the official newspaper.

JI7

(89,252 posts)
30. the BBC does a better job of covering the United States than most of the US Media does . BBC is free
Tue Nov 29, 2016, 04:59 AM
Nov 2016

online along with many other sources.

if you want an actual copy i recommend washington post or nyt and there are some others also.

but at the same time i think you should read bbc and some other foreign sources from time to time.

burrowowl

(17,641 posts)
9. For online
Wed Nov 23, 2016, 10:28 PM
Nov 2016

check out
consortium news.com

Haaretz, very good Jewish newspaper.
What languages do you read?

drmeow

(5,019 posts)
10. English and a little Spanish
Wed Nov 23, 2016, 10:33 PM
Nov 2016

but probably not enough to read a newspaper yet.

But my focus is on supporting journalism in the US.

CK_John

(10,005 posts)
16. The financial papers have the best news data and most current news.
Wed Nov 23, 2016, 10:56 PM
Nov 2016

If you want to know what is happening follow the money.

Bloomberg, Barron Weekly, Wall Street Journal, The Observer, Christian Science Monitor. Learn to read between the lines.

CBHagman

(16,986 posts)
19. I complain a lot about The Washington Post but rely on it.
Thu Nov 24, 2016, 12:51 AM
Nov 2016

I also used to seek out The Washington Monthly, as they would address neglected issues (community policing, etc.), though I couldn't stomach their views on school vouchers.

You might also look into The New Yorker.

drmeow

(5,019 posts)
20. Thanks
Thu Nov 24, 2016, 02:26 AM
Nov 2016

My parents are die hard New Yorker readers but it reminds me too much of the 10 years I spent on Long Island - where, while I was having a pretty great time, I could not stand where I was living!

What do you dislike or complain about the Washington Post?

CBHagman

(16,986 posts)
22. Pretty much the usual -- choice of front-page above-the-fold stories...
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 04:30 PM
Nov 2016

...and the like.

Case in point: Like many media outlets, The Post gave very lavish coverage to Trump during the campaign and in fact did the same for the tea party. I'd pick up the paper and find three or four stories on the tea party, and this despite the essentially minority nature of the movement.

With Trump, there'd be a couple of front-page stories, including on the day The Post ran a report on Hillary Clinton's proposal for lowering prescription drug prices. The prescription drug story ran on the very last page of Section A.

I also cannot stand Chris Cillizza and feel that he typifies everything that's wrong with political commentary -- given to shallowness, schadenfreude, and short attention span.

On the plus side, I enjoy the local columnists and appreciate the arts critics, Anne Midgette and Ann Hornaday in particular, and at times there's some wonderful reporting on national issues, the opioid epidemic being a recent example. I like Paul Farhi's columns on the media, Michael Dirda's on books, and Dan Balz's on politics.

Good luck and I hope you find the right mix of media!

drmeow

(5,019 posts)
23. To give them credit
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 10:57 PM
Nov 2016

many of the most hard hitting anti-Trump stories I've seen since the election seem to have come from there ... although perhaps a case of too little, too late.

The reality is that I get most of my news right here from DU so my goal is not so much to inform myself but to Robert Reich and John Oliver's urging of supporting investigative journalism. Part of me wants to support strong left media like Mother Jones and/or The Nation while part of me thinks it is more important to support media that is more widely read on both sides of the aisle.

CBHagman

(16,986 posts)
27. The Post does help with zeroing in on specific issues...
Sat Nov 26, 2016, 11:13 AM
Nov 2016

...such as how the federal workforce really operates. There was a recent column on the proposal to freeze hiring and how that has been tried before, with unintended consequences.

So yes, I agree wholeheartedly it matters to support a basic meat-and-potatoes newspaper or news magazine, and to engage in dialogue with said entity where possible. Time was when The Washington Post had an ombudsman -- Patrick Peyton, the late Deborah Howell et al -- who truly did respond to reader concerns. Now they have something called a reader representative, and there's no longer that sense of having a contact at the heart of things.

So I do wish you all the best as you embark on this, and I appreciate the burden reporters carry.

lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
21. Great question.
Thu Nov 24, 2016, 02:48 AM
Nov 2016

I'm going to read all the suggestions in this thread.

Some personal recommendations.

BBC news online. For straight news, especially international it's good. For writing on the USA & editorials, I try to read the conservative as well as the liberal points of view.

The Wall Street Journal. A political economist mentor once suggested it for getting a better understanding of what's going on with capitalism. I find it useful for that too. It also has a pretty wide range of editorial pieces as well. For example, it has often carried Noam Chomsky opinion pieces.

The New Yorker. The best writing & fact checking, imho.

The Economist. Great for world news. Fairly liberal.

The L.A. Times. Great for reading about the entertainment industry (our biggest export), Latin American and Asian news.

The New York Times. Hated by the alt-right, so it's obviously still doing great journalism.

The Atlantic. Longer opinion type pieces which go into great detail. Harpers, The Nation,

Your local newspaper(s). For coverage in your local area & wire stories. Pretty good about publishing letters, depending on the size of the paper (and your language, lol). All politics begin locally. Think globally act locally.

Hamlette

(15,412 posts)
24. You can get Washington Post online for free if you have an edu or gov email address
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 11:32 PM
Nov 2016

I know that's not part of your plan, but they were better than NYTimes this last election and maybe you could save money and support another paper/publication.

I thought someone should start a PAC to fund investigative journalism/investigations. I'm in

drmeow

(5,019 posts)
25. I no longer have an edu
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 11:35 PM
Nov 2016

and my gov email address probably won't last very long! Otherwise I like the idea of supporting another publication.

LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
26. Is there a regional paper you like that does good investigative work?
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 11:42 PM
Nov 2016

I don't know about papers in the SW specifically, but I know that some of the best reporting in the intermountain west generally comes from https://www.hcn.org/ and http://indiancountrytodaymedianetwork.com/

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
31. WA Post has been the best national paper this election season. And I realized a while ago
Tue Nov 29, 2016, 05:35 AM
Nov 2016

that the good papers won't be able to stay in business unless some people stay on after the 10 free articles and pay to read them.

The Nation is a good magazine.

drmeow

(5,019 posts)
32. Yes, I've been noticing they
Wed Nov 30, 2016, 12:04 AM
Nov 2016

are also doing pretty well post election. Its funny cause they are considered left by more right leaning sources and right by more left leaning sources so it sounds like they are pretty centrist - which had definite pros as long as they are truly centrist and not what passes for centrist in this country but is really reasonably far right.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
34. They had some reporters doing hard investigative pieces that few other
Wed Nov 30, 2016, 12:16 AM
Nov 2016

newspapers were doing. I don't know if they were left or center -- just that they were doing real work and real reporting: the kind of reporting other newspapers weren't bothering to do.

And Trump HATES the owner, and has vowed retaliation. All the more reason to buy an online subscription.

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Seeking newpaper recommen...