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TheMastersNemesis

(10,602 posts)
Wed Nov 23, 2016, 02:38 AM Nov 2016

ADDENDUM ALERT28-31 Would Vote Trump/GOP Again. Worried About Medicare Loss!!!!!!

This OP is an addendum to earlier OP. IT IS A LOT WORSE THAN MY OTHER OP. HOLY SHIT!!!!!!!!!

Some seniors are just sorry fucking insane. I want to just scream.

My earlier post talked about a meeting at local library with 31 seniors who were worried about losing their benefits. Our political operative in our county asked these seniors how many vote for GOP and Trump. 28 of 31 voted Trump. NOW HERE IS THE GOD DAMNED KICKER. When asked if they would vote Trump and GOP AGAIN - THEY ALL SAID YES. Would never vote for a Democrat.

When our operative said did they realize the REPUBLICANS!!!!!!! are taking their benefits. She said they looked at her like she had "horns". I guess they were mad at her.

I could not be their because I would have just screamed at them.

THEY HAVE SCREWED THEMSELVES AND THE REST OF US.

I am sorry for the language but I just cannot take it anymore. This country is completely insane. Particularly a lot of seniors.

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ADDENDUM ALERT28-31 Would Vote Trump/GOP Again. Worried About Medicare Loss!!!!!! (Original Post) TheMastersNemesis Nov 2016 OP
Seniors watch fox news all day. The old men look at the blondes The_Casual_Observer Nov 2016 #1
Please stop... tibbir Nov 2016 #5
no fact here. i NEVER watch that shit. spanone Nov 2016 #10
racism and sexism trumps everything else. Even if one argues, falsely I believe, that Hillary still_one Nov 2016 #2
ZEPHYR TEACHOUTS LOSS AND THE FIGHT AGAINST DARK MONEY Grey Lemercier Nov 2016 #3
Face it Americans are just STUPID world wide wally Nov 2016 #4
millions did vote for him heaven05 Nov 2016 #7
I never wanted to believe that, but now I do. smirkymonkey Nov 2016 #8
Quote Westworld... CincyDem Nov 2016 #6
I have had several conversations with Repubs about this issue. DURHAM D Nov 2016 #9

tibbir

(1,170 posts)
5. Please stop...
Wed Nov 23, 2016, 08:29 AM
Nov 2016

I'm 65 and have never voted for a repuke my entire life. It's hard to read these sweeping generalizations.

still_one

(92,219 posts)
2. racism and sexism trumps everything else. Even if one argues, falsely I believe, that Hillary
Wed Nov 23, 2016, 02:59 AM
Nov 2016

wasn't the "right candidate', that fails to answer why a Russ Feingold or Zypher Teachout lost, or why every swing state incumbent ESTABLISHMENT republican running for the Senate won

The sick and sad truth is that the media in general, but fox news, and the 90% of right wing radio indoctrinating our airwaves, have effectively brainwashed a segment of people, so much to the degree that they vote against their own interests

 

Grey Lemercier

(1,429 posts)
3. ZEPHYR TEACHOUTS LOSS AND THE FIGHT AGAINST DARK MONEY
Wed Nov 23, 2016, 04:27 AM
Nov 2016
http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/zephyr-teachouts-loss-and-the-fight-against-dark-money

Late Tuesday, in a small hotel on the eastern bank of the Hudson River, Zephyr Teachout stood in a dark stairwell. She had just learned that she had lost her bid for a seat in the U.S. House of Representatives. A clear majority of voters in New York’s nineteenth congressional district had chosen to send her Republican opponent, John Faso, a sixty-four-year-old lawyer and former state assemblyman, to Washington. Now she had to address her supporters, dozens of whom filled the bar and restaurant of the Rhinecliff Inn, wearing Teachout caps and buttons. But first, a moment of grief. I could see her in silhouette, standing alone with her head down and her hand on the railing. Perhaps she needed to compose herself. Or perhaps she wanted a few more seconds of silence before confirming out loud, to the people who had worked hard over the previous year to get her elected, that she had lost, and that the country had lost. Moments later, she was behind the lectern, facing the crowd. “It’s been a bad night for honest, respectful democracy,” she said slowly. “Across the country, and in this race, we did not have the results we wanted. But I am so proud of our campaign.”

Teachout, a forty-five-year-old Fordham law professor who has never held political office, was the upstart candidate. Her first campaign was in 2014, when she ran for governor, challenging Andrew Cuomo in the Democratic primary. She lost, but established her reputation as an anti-corruption crusader whose top priority was to reduce the influence of outside money on elections. Last year, she moved from Brooklyn to Dutchess County, joining a growing population of well-educated, liberal urban transplants. When Chris Gibson, the district’s three-term Republican congressman, announced his retirement, she decided to run for his seat. She continued to fight for campaign-finance reform, including the overturning of Citizens United, the Supreme Court decision that legalized unlimited contributions to independent, issues-oriented political organizations, or super pacs. In February, at the start of the race, Teachout asked Faso to join her in a pledge to keep super-pac money out of the race. Faso declined, stating in a letter that the expenditures were equivalent to free speech. He subsequently criticized Professor Teachout—his preferred epithet—for not understanding the First Amendment. “I think James Madison’s handiwork was better than Zephyr Teachout’s,” he told me.

By November, both candidates had benefitted from their parties’ traditional PACs, which had raised more than two million dollars each. But the largest share of the money spent in the election, $6.7 million, came from four super pacs backing Faso, which bankrolled an onslaught of advertisements against Teachout. In August, Teachout called out two billionaires—the Wall Street financier Paul Singer and the hedge-fund manager Robert Mercer, who together contributed more than a million dollars to one pro-Faso super pac—for skewing the election. Mercer, who lives on Long Island, has been a significant donor to the political organizations overseen by David and Charles Koch, and became one of Donald Trump’s most important backers after he won the G.O.P.’s Presidential nomination. Teachout blames her loss entirely on their influence. “This was a race inside the post-Citizens United world,” she said in her speech on Tuesday. “It wasn’t me against Faso. It was all of us against a handful of billionaires.” Ultimately, her campaign raised a million dollars more than Faso’s, mostly in small donations, but it wasn’t enough to counteract the super pacs.

Teachout’s obstacles were political as well as financial, however. The nineteenth district—a horseshoe of eleven rural counties around southern Albany that includes parts of the Catskills Mountains and the Hudson River Valley—is one of Congress’s rare swing districts. Turning it Democratic again after six years of G.O.P. control was never going to be easy, particular after its lines were redrawn, in 2012. “It’s a stinker of a district,” Elizabeth Spinzia, the Rhinebeck town supervisor, told me. “It’s an octopus. And it was very nicely gerrymandered.” While manufacturing once drove a healthy local economy in the area, those jobs are mostly gone, memorialized in abandoned factories like the grand, dystopian cement plant that still looms over East Kingston. Meanwhile, the predominantly white, working-class population has become increasingly disaffected. In this regard, the region, which Donald Trump won by ten per cent, parallels those around the country—especially in states like Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Ohio—that helped bring about his national victory.

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The Mercers are Kochs on steroids, Rebekah is actually on Trump's official transition team and they fund a tonne of alt-right white nationalist shit. They are thick as thieves with the odious Bannon.

http://www.salon.com/2016/11/15/steve-bannons-web-of-weirdness-meet-the-bizarre-billionaires-behind-the-president-elects-chief-strategist/
 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
7. millions did vote for him
Wed Nov 23, 2016, 09:19 AM
Nov 2016

even if it's found out the vote was hacked in three important states WI, MICH, PA. maybe N.C? Hillary probably will not challenge. Although, if hacking is true, I hope to god she does challenge and not pull a Gore. What good it would do is to be seen, but at least our Party will show some courage to stand up against the racist, sexist bullies, con artists and out and out crooks. We need our leadership to make some fucking NOISE!!!!!!

DURHAM D

(32,610 posts)
9. I have had several conversations with Repubs about this issue.
Wed Nov 23, 2016, 10:03 AM
Nov 2016

They truly think rational Democrats can somehow stand up and protect them from themselves. They are babies. They don't understand anything about the political process, they are and have been voting their grievances for 40 years.

A few weeks ago I read an article that said only 1/3 of Americans even know that we have three branches of government. Stupid is BIG !

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