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backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
Wed Nov 23, 2016, 08:58 AM Nov 2016

New rule, NEVER use the term "alt-right" without also using the word "Nazi".

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/11/23/1603344/-New-rule-NEVER-use-the-term-alt-right-without-also-using-the-word-Nazi

Posted in it's entirety because I wrote it.

New rule, NEVER use the term "alt-right" without also using the word "Nazi".
by ApostleOfCarlin

I have a gripe. People are trying to suppress the term “alt-right”. This is meant well, because, well, they’re Nazis. Literally. As in waving swastikas, doing Heil Hitler salutes, hating Jewish people and anyone else that isn’t like them, and behaving like tyrannical man-children.

But that’s closing the barn door after the horses escaped. The word is out there. And words have power. We can use the power of words too. So my suggestion: redefine “alt-right” rather than suppress it. It just takes a little bit of psychology, to plant an association in people’s brains. Which means I have a simple rule.

NEVER use the word “alt-right” without also using the word “Nazi”.

Glue the two words together. Never let them become separated.

They are the Nazi alt-right.

They are alt-right nazis.

They are alt-nazis.

They are the Nazi-right.

There is no such thing as an alt-righter that is not a Nazi.

Remember the goal. Make sure that when people hear “alt-right”, they think “Nazi”.

Alt-right, Nazi. Alt-right, Nazi. Alt-right, Nazi.

Any questions?


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New rule, NEVER use the term "alt-right" without also using the word "Nazi". (Original Post) backscatter712 Nov 2016 OP
ALT-REICH...it is so much more honest in its native German. Raster Nov 2016 #1
That works! backscatter712 Nov 2016 #2
I never use alt-right mcar Nov 2016 #3
My goal is to make "alt-right" as despised as "nazi". backscatter712 Nov 2016 #4
One addition. These Nazis on their alt-right forums also are avowed women haters/rape-fantasists. Turn CO Blue Nov 2016 #5

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
4. My goal is to make "alt-right" as despised as "nazi".
Wed Nov 23, 2016, 11:24 AM
Nov 2016

And I can't think of a better way than to tie the two together.

Turn CO Blue

(4,221 posts)
5. One addition. These Nazis on their alt-right forums also are avowed women haters/rape-fantasists.
Wed Nov 23, 2016, 01:49 PM
Nov 2016

I agree that term "alt-right" doesn't work and is effectively just a softened euphemism for their Nazi ideology.

But in my mind, their ideology is composed of three parts:

- extreme right political fascism/authoritarianism
- extreme racism and xenophobia including vitriolic emotionally-engaged hatred of brown/black/yellow/Jew/Muslim/gay/lesbian/trans/etc etc etc
- extreme sexism, misogyny (emotionally-engaged hatred) and sadistic-rapist fantasies toward female gender/gays

I feel it's really important to not forget that one of the online root of the alt-right began with:

- the PUA pickup artist books then forums - how to act like an alpha male, theories how to get lots of pu$$y by being a mean, asshole, how rape should be legal, how women shouldn't be able to vote or drive cars, or get paid the same, with elements of homophobia, etc)
- the MRA forums - the men's right's movement, similar in some ways to PUA but focusing more on revenge on ex-wives/girlfriends, encouraging the right to discipline (control, beat) the women or children you own, how to get away with cheating on your partner, taking rights away from women of property ownership and agency, how to set up women as incompetent for custody of children, also with some elements of homophobia)

The PUA forums somehow began merging with the tea-party and racism forums, into one ugly thing.

The overt demeaning of all shades of women on their discussion forums is so prevalent that I feel it's at least one-third of their foundation, and now Trump (womanizer, objectifier, adulterer, alleged-rapist, groper, sexist, racist) is their president god-emperor.

So, while the term Nazi shows a part of the ideological roots and future intent in some ways, I'm not sure the term Nazi is complete or fully covers it as in my mind that term hails back to disciplined German men in tidy uniforms.

These alt-right fuckers are classic underachievers, obsessed with the internet or games and many are somewhere on the psychopathic spectrum. Think of all those pasty-pink white goatee-growing 20 or 30 somethings who troll the internet/FB/news sites with a pic of themselves in a fedora (hat) and can't wait to talk about Gamergate and online-role-playing or first-person-shooter games. The fedora was the identifying PUA/MRA symbol as much as Pepe the Frog is the alt-right mascot and at one point was just as prevalent on 4chan and reddit.

Many of these fedora punks are not the good soldier type, probably more like sloppy militia -- often unkempt, ill-educated, conspiracy-theory believing (along the lines of govt controls the weather with haarp sonar, Illuminati runs the world, etc) who very likely tortured animals, set small fires, practiced knot tieing and peeped on women in their childhood (four signs of serial killer potential) and that is NOTHING to make light of or pass over.

And I guarantee that while we are horrified by the evidence of ramped up graffiti and xenophobic attacks (I'm scared and outraged and we should be more frightened than we are) -- I think we should also prepare ourselves for the ramped up use of date-rape drugs (roofies) and even more overt discussion of the delights of non-consensual sexual sadism.

Yes, right-wing politicians and rightwing noise pundits/talk-show hosts are overt sexists now, but they currently try to present themselves in a form of sexism casting selves as Sir Knight rescuing damsels... but I foresee a time when not just rape is flippantly dismissed but even murder-rape is dismissed (she probably deserved it) and perhaps in 6-8 years encouraged in some places as a right of passage by these Nazi-pricks (boys will be boys, amirite?) Lynching was encouraged in some places.

Think I'm an alarmist? 4chan and the dark net is full of violent torture porn, pedophilia, bloody sadism and snuff images and the alt-right lives there.

I was trying to come up with a term that expresses Nazi-misogyne - but nothing short or catchy yet.

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