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workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
Wed Nov 23, 2016, 10:16 AM Nov 2016

Democrats Leadership Fight Pits West Wing Against Left Wing

Democrats’ Leadership Fight Pits West Wing Against Left Wing
By JONATHAN MARTIN and MAGGIE HABERMANNOV. 22, 2016

WASHINGTON — Struggling to respond to Donald J. Trump’s victory, a group of shellshocked Democrats moved swiftly to endorse Representative Keith Ellison of Minnesota for chairman of the Democratic National Committee, hoping that he would be a fresh face for a party with a depleted bench.

But after steadily adding endorsements from leading Democrats in his bid to take over the party, Mr. Ellison is encountering resistance from a formidable corner: the White House.

In a sign of the discord gripping the party, President Obama’s loyalists, uneasy with the progressive Mr. Ellison, have begun casting about for an alternative, according to multiple Democratic officials close to the president.

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Democrats Leadership Fight Pits West Wing Against Left Wing (Original Post) workinclasszero Nov 2016 OP
And that's why we lose. We need Ellison! onecaliberal Nov 2016 #1
We need a fighter period! workinclasszero Nov 2016 #2
Explain the "fighting" that the DNC Chair engages in. brooklynite Nov 2016 #3
More like inclusive, fighting for more than corporate personhood and rights. onecaliberal Nov 2016 #7
That's the Party's fight, and it's candidates and elected officials... brooklynite Nov 2016 #8
The party is NOT fighting for those things, hence the loss of working people onecaliberal Nov 2016 #11
Honesty JonLP24 Nov 2016 #10
Agree!! onecaliberal Nov 2016 #4
Right nil desperandum Nov 2016 #5
I like Ellison a lot Bettie Nov 2016 #6
It is definitely a full-time job. Having a congressman, senator, or governor try madinmaryland Nov 2016 #13
Exactly Bettie Nov 2016 #14
I'm getting real tired of this JonLP24 Nov 2016 #9
THAT X 100000000 onecaliberal Nov 2016 #12

brooklynite

(94,594 posts)
3. Explain the "fighting" that the DNC Chair engages in.
Wed Nov 23, 2016, 11:25 AM
Nov 2016

What specific skill set does Ellison bring to the job?

brooklynite

(94,594 posts)
8. That's the Party's fight, and it's candidates and elected officials...
Wed Nov 23, 2016, 05:06 PM
Nov 2016

...how does that fit in to the job of the DNC Chair?

onecaliberal

(32,863 posts)
11. The party is NOT fighting for those things, hence the loss of working people
Wed Nov 23, 2016, 05:31 PM
Nov 2016

The consecutive losses of elections.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
10. Honesty
Wed Nov 23, 2016, 05:29 PM
Nov 2016

Or much more than the usual.

I'd also add a progressive vision that would hopefully be spread all over the US rather than the Rahm Emanuel approach to back 50/50 races. Hopefully he would be of the mind of building something all over it could pay dividends especially in areas that were forfeited by Rahm & others.

nil desperandum

(654 posts)
5. Right
Wed Nov 23, 2016, 11:39 AM
Nov 2016

someone who isn't afraid to fight but can articulate a progressive position with a convincing differentiation understandable by the electorate.

Too much time has been wasted catering to corporatists and people only slightly removed from the republicans...

Bettie

(16,110 posts)
6. I like Ellison a lot
Wed Nov 23, 2016, 11:53 AM
Nov 2016

however, I also tend to agree with Howard Dean that it is a full-time job.

I also remember how well his 50 state strategy worked.

I'd like to see both of them involved.

madinmaryland

(64,933 posts)
13. It is definitely a full-time job. Having a congressman, senator, or governor try
Wed Nov 23, 2016, 07:19 PM
Nov 2016

and do the job is absurd. What ever you say about either Michael Steele or Rinse Penis, they at least were able to focus 100% on the job, unlike DWS.

Bettie

(16,110 posts)
14. Exactly
Wed Nov 23, 2016, 10:56 PM
Nov 2016

I'd rather have a full-time person there, but someone who will call on the progressives in the party to help and for advice.

We could do far worse than Howard Dean and Ellison is needed right where he his. Fighting Ryan/McConnell/That Creature will be a full time and then some job.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
9. I'm getting real tired of this
Wed Nov 23, 2016, 05:17 PM
Nov 2016

It's like the leadership of the Democratic party is trying to out do the Republicans as the big business party.

We need to support honest & logical policies that benefit the people that voted them in rather than sell out to private corporations. All the recent Presidents are literally giving away the taxpayer money into the hands of the wealthy ruining the economy but they don't care since they'll be well compensated for it leaving it as someone else's problem in the revolving revolving door of business and government.

That kind of thing will kill the party in elections.

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