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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsOne of our biggest problems is that nobody at all has spoken of what the real problem is
We have heard about Mexicans and immigrants taking our jobs.
We have heard about bad trade deals shipping our jobs overseas.
These are only minor factors in the struggles of our economy.
Nobody ha pointed out the actual problem because nobody has an answer on what to do about it.
Not Trump. Not Hillary. Not Bernie.
The truth is that we are heading for a nearly jobless economy.
Robots do the work of factory assembly lines, mining, and farming. Online sales have replaced retail shops. The office secretary is nearly obsolete. Soon self driven vehicles will replace all the various driving jobs. The military is becoming an army of drones and robots. Soon, fast food workers and servers will be a quaint relic.
Nobody talks about this because it is true, frightening, irreversible, and without a solution.
Maybe becoming a plumber isn't a bad idea after all.
In any case, whoever does bring it up and has a semblance of a solution will be our next President.
Igel
(35,320 posts)It became a big deal *because* of Trump's assertions about trade deals and migrant labor. It was a slam against his rhetoric, and was for many last recourse. It not only slammed Trump, it also exculpated others who hadn't managed to live up to real or attributed campaign promises.
Of course, the stories had been there for the last decade and more. All we had to do was notice them. They weren't relevant, though, because they'd suggest that the President really has limited abilities to create jobs, and that further investment in the US industrial infrastructure wouldn't produce a bountiful harvest of high-paying jobs. In fact, we had every reason to overlook such stories.
We like our news spun. Not long back it was a big deal that more worked in solar energy jobs than in oil/gas extraction in 2015. What wasn't part of the news was that most of the solar jobs were installation, and included those who installed, say, solar panels for at least 50% of their time. That, of course, makes the guy who installed my new hot water heater last spring an "oil/gas worker," when the news was only newsworthy as long as it limited the kind of oil/gas worker in a year when the US oil/gas sector was gutted by depressed oil prices. The great news, viewed as justifying many US government policies, also overlooked that solar module production may have had increased output and investment in manufacturing, but the number of Americans working in manufacturing solar modules in the US actually declined in 2015 because much of that investment (government backed!) went towards automation. Oops.
The facts weren't all that overwhelming. But the news was glowing.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)When automatic elevators eliminate the need for human operators.
When electric and gas furnaces replaced coal furnaces.
When automobiles replaced horses, and that industry.
We have jobs now that did not exist but for automation.
The fact that we are sitting here conversing is due to automation.
CK_John
(10,005 posts)build or buy a rickshaw.
pansypoo53219
(20,978 posts)rnny ray gun created + AYN RAND & THEY VOTED FOR MORE BULLSHIT! because the media KEEPS DIGGING RITE.
ileus
(15,396 posts)I used to automate rock quarries for a living, but no one ever lost their job instead their position went from button pusher to outside work.
Now I calibrate and repair medical equipment. in the 17 years I've been doing this the equipment has started troubleshooting and calibrating itself, but still requires a technician to replace components and verify calibration.