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Online tool to email all those in the Electoral College. (Original Post) ehrnst Nov 2016 OP
I used it ebbie15644 Nov 2016 #1
wow, that was rude of them eleny Nov 2016 #9
Well it is a Trump supporter ebbie15644 Nov 2016 #33
I emailed them The Blue Flower Nov 2016 #2
Its not going to change anything Travis_0004 Nov 2016 #3
Then we should definitely do nothing, right? Hekate Nov 2016 #5
Even if they did SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2016 #6
Why the determination to stop people from fighting? bigmonkey Nov 2016 #8
Not trying to get people to stop fighting SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2016 #10
So, fighting is unrealistic? bigmonkey Nov 2016 #11
Fighting at the electoral college level is unrealistic SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2016 #12
Yet you are "wasting your time" trying to discourage them. bigmonkey Nov 2016 #13
I have no goal other than putting info out there SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2016 #14
It's not info, it's opinion. bigmonkey Nov 2016 #15
If someone chooses not to do something SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2016 #16
Your words have effect. bigmonkey Nov 2016 #17
Sorry, I'm not going to blindly encourage SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2016 #18
But you're actively _discouraging_, which is different. bigmonkey Nov 2016 #19
I'm not actively discouraging anything SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2016 #20
Words have effects, direct and indirect. bigmonkey Nov 2016 #21
Well then maybe these words will have an effect SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2016 #22
Sorry, you can't dismiss me. bigmonkey Nov 2016 #23
Actually, I can dismiss you SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2016 #24
Go right ahead. bigmonkey Nov 2016 #25
DISMISSED! SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2016 #26
Well, you can't say you're not dismissive now, can you? bigmonkey Nov 2016 #27
Just of you SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2016 #28
I'm just having fun at this point. bigmonkey Nov 2016 #29
I think it was your pleading SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2016 #30
I doubt it. bigmonkey Nov 2016 #32
I'm off to bed now SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2016 #31
Why not say "Good luck", and leave it at that? bigmonkey Nov 2016 #7
I seem to be having some trouble making the post, but will try again. TY for the link. Hekate Nov 2016 #4

ebbie15644

(1,215 posts)
1. I used it
Wed Nov 23, 2016, 06:35 PM
Nov 2016

I had to copy and past and send it through my yahoo account. Yahoo would not accept the amount of email addresses and I had to delete some of them. I know at least one person got it because they sent a stupid message back. Something to the effect of "get over it"

The Blue Flower

(5,442 posts)
2. I emailed them
Wed Nov 23, 2016, 06:45 PM
Nov 2016

I got four responses back, all negative, but I figured that I'd keep the conversation going as long as I could. So I wrote back to them very politely and respectfully, addressing what they said. I ended by saying that I know we disagree, but as things go forward, if wanted to re-examine their position, they'd have support. So go ahead and do it. We just don't know what might happen as Il drumpf keeps doing his thing.

 

Travis_0004

(5,417 posts)
3. Its not going to change anything
Wed Nov 23, 2016, 07:00 PM
Nov 2016

The people on the electoral college were chosen for their loyalty to the republican party, and they are mostly up and coming with a bright political future. They are not going to risk that to put a democrat in charge. Voting for Hillary would end their career overnight.

bigmonkey

(1,798 posts)
8. Why the determination to stop people from fighting?
Wed Nov 23, 2016, 10:58 PM
Nov 2016

If not a victory, then it would be attrition, minimization of damage. Why be so binary about this?

bigmonkey

(1,798 posts)
11. So, fighting is unrealistic?
Wed Nov 23, 2016, 11:04 PM
Nov 2016

Or doing what you are decrying is unrealistic? Your words have an influence on others, or why would you express them? What are you trying to accomplish in this circumstance? These actions are, at worst, gestures of defiance. Is there a problem with that?

SickOfTheOnePct

(7,290 posts)
12. Fighting at the electoral college level is unrealistic
Wed Nov 23, 2016, 11:07 PM
Nov 2016

Because Congress will never allow faithless elector votes to be counted.

And no, I don't have a problem with people doing whatever they choose if it makes them feel better - it's their time being wasted, not mine.

SickOfTheOnePct

(7,290 posts)
14. I have no goal other than putting info out there
Wed Nov 23, 2016, 11:10 PM
Nov 2016

Why do you care so much about my opinion? I'm not trying to stop you from doing anything.

bigmonkey

(1,798 posts)
15. It's not info, it's opinion.
Wed Nov 23, 2016, 11:29 PM
Nov 2016

Moreover, the effect of actions is not confined to their immediate result. What you are saying is discouraging people from making a human appeal to another human to take sides against nascent fascism. Why do that? "Pitting info out there" is not a neutral act per se. At this juncture, why not maximize the ability to fight?

SickOfTheOnePct

(7,290 posts)
16. If someone chooses not to do something
Wed Nov 23, 2016, 11:36 PM
Nov 2016

based on what a faceless person on the internet says, that's their problem, not mine.

bigmonkey

(1,798 posts)
17. Your words have effect.
Wed Nov 23, 2016, 11:39 PM
Nov 2016

Just own the effect, and put it alignment with your values. Encouragement is what is needed now.

SickOfTheOnePct

(7,290 posts)
20. I'm not actively discouraging anything
Wed Nov 23, 2016, 11:56 PM
Nov 2016

Let it go - your seeming distress with what I post is a bit ridiculous.

SickOfTheOnePct

(7,290 posts)
22. Well then maybe these words will have an effect
Thu Nov 24, 2016, 12:05 AM
Nov 2016

with regards to your distress over my posts.

L-E-T I-T G-O

bigmonkey

(1,798 posts)
29. I'm just having fun at this point.
Thu Nov 24, 2016, 12:17 AM
Nov 2016

I have no idea what your agenda is, but I have declared mine. Why you need to have the last word when your stated intention is to "just put info out there" and "not waste your time" is something only you can answer.

SickOfTheOnePct

(7,290 posts)
30. I think it was your pleading
Thu Nov 24, 2016, 12:19 AM
Nov 2016

"Please see the difference"...like it matters. I was actually embarrassed for you, begging like that.

bigmonkey

(1,798 posts)
32. I doubt it.
Thu Nov 24, 2016, 12:27 AM
Nov 2016

It does matter. I can't be shamed on this, it's too important.

Strange, such attention to matters of status with respect to a "faceless person on the internet".

I wish you well personally, but I would encourage you to think about the wider context of what you say. I've said what I wanted to say. Have the last word now, perhaps it will make you feel better.

bigmonkey

(1,798 posts)
7. Why not say "Good luck", and leave it at that?
Wed Nov 23, 2016, 10:56 PM
Nov 2016

You can't be knowledgable enough to make that proclamation.

Hekate

(90,714 posts)
4. I seem to be having some trouble making the post, but will try again. TY for the link.
Wed Nov 23, 2016, 07:17 PM
Nov 2016

My message, should it ever get through:

Please consider your historic, Constitutional, role in the presidential election process. The Electoral College was designed to prevent just such an outcome as we are seeing now -- that is, that an unqualified person would enter the presidency over a qualified one.

As things stand now, the number of votes is not even close. Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton is ahead by over two million votes, and the tally increases by the day. She is qualified. He, arguably, is not. Your Constitutional mandate is to thoughtfully discern that and act upon it.

Further, there are increasingly grave concerns that a foreign nation interfered with our election, from influence of individual persons to actual hacking of the machinery. Donald Trump has numerous "foreign entanglements" and is quite cozy with Russia, the nation that has left its fingerprints on numerous political hacks this year. This alone is disqualifying, but he has, since being declared the "winner" in this contest, used every meeting and conversation with foreign dignitaries to advance his personal business empire.

Please, pay heed to the American people, and ratify the election of Hillary Clinton.

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