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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsJill Stein appreciation thread
Thank you for calling for and executing a recount.
Hillary would have been pilloried and called a sore loser by Trump, Trumpkins and their lap dogs in the press if she requested one even though she won the popular vote by 2, 500,000 votes.
blue sky at night
(3,242 posts)You gave me reason to have H O P E....small amount of it but still H O P E.
Tom Rinaldo
(22,913 posts)eleny
(46,166 posts)$4,150M so far. Lots of folks are feeling the same.
WhiteTara
(29,722 posts)and not before. That's a nice chunk of change she gathered up and now to see what she does.
womanofthehills
(8,774 posts)why so negative? this is a good thing!!!
WhiteTara
(29,722 posts)Right now, I am still waiting
jodymarie aimee
(3,975 posts)If Cheeto allows Ryan to take out Low income housing, and medicare and SS I am dead. Literally dead. Poor old 65 year old disabled lady on the curb. I am happy for the first time all month.
EL34x4
(2,003 posts)Stein's recount crusade (that looks a lot like a cash grab) isn't going to amount to a damn bit of difference.
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,714 posts)If my party abandons you I will abandon it.
My faith and politics have been the only constants in my life.
flamingdem
(39,328 posts)and we still may never know, really, but something might be revealed at least
Thekaspervote
(32,796 posts)Thank you!
TheFrenchRazor
(2,116 posts)jimlup
(7,968 posts)I still remember the "Sore Loserman" so called grass roots movement from 2000 which actually turned out to be Republicon operatives.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,714 posts)He might go on a twitter rant and give the recount even more attention.
womanofthehills
(8,774 posts)and it might get the attention of some states.
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)LisaL
(44,974 posts)But I doubt this will overturn any results.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,714 posts)volstork
(5,403 posts)All Progressives must work together now against the common enemy of American democracy: the republican machine.
Feeling the Bern
(3,839 posts)so many times here on DU. She's a secret Trumper because she has no chance of winning and always attacked Clinton and the Democrats.
We need to support Democrats. Party over Principle. The Democratic Party candidate gave up and conceded. We all need to support what the Party does!
PARTY! PARTY! Fuck principles!
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,714 posts)It wasn't like 2000 where you can make a logical argument that the 537 votes Bush won the election by in Fl wouldn't have mattered if Gore won some of the 91,000 votes Nader garnered.
I can do the math if you want.
Feeling the Bern
(3,839 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,714 posts)Feeling the Bern
(3,839 posts)LisaL
(44,974 posts)So how again did Stein didn't hurt us?
Statistical
(19,264 posts)Michigan
2,279,543 Donald J. Trump, Republican
2,268,839 Hillary Clinton, Democratic (10,704 votes short)
51,463 Jill Stein, Green
LisaL
(44,974 posts)Hillary.
JTFrog
(14,274 posts)DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)it weakens Trump, so while I would never vote Stein, I applaud her effort.
Hekate
(90,829 posts)Laf.La.Dem.
(2,946 posts)demtenjeep
(31,997 posts)people are throwing money into a black hole
People like me face losing everything because of disease and 50 K would make all the difference in the world but this effort is making millions and it won't change drumpth from being president
https://www.gofundme.com/pamelas-crohns-disease-relief
RandySF
(59,264 posts)Had you not run and preoccupied yourself with attacking Hillary, the country would be a safer place today. We couldn't have that, could we?
"Hillary Clinton with nukes is much scarier than Donald Trump."
Liberal In Texas
(13,580 posts)Donation coming soon.
Mike Niendorff
(3,463 posts)This matters, and I applaud you and the Green Party for standing up and making it happen. Well done.
MDN
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Remember that her avowed goal for the past year and a half was to do everything in her power to make sure that Hillary Clinton was not elected president of the United States.
Now, her goal is to take advantage of those same Democrats in order to raise money for her party, which is devoted to defeating Democrats in elections.
Her "goal" for the fundraiser keeps getting higher. She is now asking for seven million dollars.
This is more than three times the amount necessary to pay the fees associated with filing for a recount in those states.
Her site claims vague "lawyer fees" and other unspecified costs. The site also claims that there is no guarantee any of these recounts will occur, and that any extra funds will be used "to promote voting reform" which is of the things the Green Party itself claims to promote.
Glassunion
(10,201 posts)GregD
(2,263 posts)See my post here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=2624406
Lots of folks worked on the BBV issue in 2003-2004. Bev Harris at BlackBoxVoting.org has been working on this for over a decade. The polarization that Trump has created may finally generate the interest in this topic, and based on their surpassing $5M today, that's just what is happening.
Why the bad attitude? Yes, there is an argument that the Green's lost the race for Clinton by dividing the vote. But the good news is that she has the standing to press a case that many of us have made for years - BBV sucks and we have to get rid of corporate-owned voting machine software, along with non-verifiable touch-screen voting systems. The Clinton campaign had the option to do so and they made a different decision. So go Jill!
We have to look at this in a positive light. It's about the future much more than it is about today. Only through supporting the recount and highlighting widely and loudly how f'ed up our electoral system is might we achieve change.
And WTF, what if it actually turned up fraud and we turned around the election? That is a long reach but hey, if everyone contributes what they can, is it not worth the risk? How much did we all contribute to various campaigns trying to win the election?
Support the recount! It's for our kids...
tavalon
(27,985 posts)Contribute if you can. There's a link at bartcop.