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Stein just passed 4,500,000 (Original Post) madaboutharry Nov 2016 OP
This is an AMAZING fundraising effort milestogo Nov 2016 #1
Ok... FarPoint Nov 2016 #2
I gave 5 for now. roamer65 Nov 2016 #3
The deadline for filing in Wisconsin mountain grammy Nov 2016 #17
You do what you want with your money. As for me, I am donating to the recount. BigBearJohn Nov 2016 #28
And it's still going at a stronger clip than I imagined it would... eleny Nov 2016 #4
But can we trust Stein? Archae Nov 2016 #5
I'm no fan of Stein, but I think that it's unlikely that she'll misuse those funds. drm604 Nov 2016 #8
Just to set the record straight jimlup Nov 2016 #10
Yeah, she was "just asking questions..." Archae Nov 2016 #14
This is not about vaccinations BlueSpot Nov 2016 #11
I really don't see how Sherman A1 Nov 2016 #25
I agree with you about never getting over it... jimlup Nov 2016 #6
Why didn't Hillary Clinton do this instead of Jill Stein? Red Oak Nov 2016 #7
That's a very good question. drm604 Nov 2016 #9
If Hillary does it, people would claim she's a "sore loser" tinrobot Nov 2016 #13
Yes. Hill has special constraints. Stein wants attention Hortensis Nov 2016 #34
Hillary conceded the election. mnhtnbb Nov 2016 #33
And she's now increased the goal to 7 million. drm604 Nov 2016 #12
We may be asked for more, if things turn. F L O R I D A. ffr Nov 2016 #15
Florida is harder BainsBane Nov 2016 #18
Seems the MSM is not covering this story too much UCmeNdc Nov 2016 #16
Wont matter if they cover it. All that matters is if anything changes Tiggeroshii Nov 2016 #19
I think it will be helpful if they cover it UCmeNdc Nov 2016 #21
Too bad Stein didn't urge her supporters DesertRat Nov 2016 #20
Like most people and polls, she probably thought Clinton had those states in landslides Tiggeroshii Nov 2016 #22
Polls weren't showing Clinton was winning these states in landslides. LisaL Nov 2016 #23
No, she always said that Hillary would be worse than Trump. pnwmom Nov 2016 #24
Then what is your solution? Give up all hope and suffer through 4 years of Trump? BigBearJohn Nov 2016 #29
I prefer to support Democrats AngryAmish Nov 2016 #35
No, she didn't oberliner Nov 2016 #26
I agree, but election integrity is is a core issue in it's own right Tom Rinaldo Nov 2016 #36
True, but I stand by my original point DesertRat Nov 2016 #44
She is scamming Democrats to give money to a person and party who fights against Democrats oberliner Nov 2016 #27
I've spent more money on the Lotto then I have on Jill Stein, with less chance of BigBearJohn Nov 2016 #30
Now, how about that LA senate seat we could pick? robbedvoter Nov 2016 #31
Plus 1000 JustAnotherGen Nov 2016 #32
Is there a link people can use to donate? drm604 Nov 2016 #38
This message was self-deleted by its author JTFrog Nov 2016 #39
Here is a link to ActBlue: JTFrog Nov 2016 #40
1 DesertRat Nov 2016 #43
It's not important, but I'm curious about something. drm604 Nov 2016 #37
it wont matter demtenjeep Nov 2016 #41
I just want someone do do some forensics OnionPatch Nov 2016 #42

milestogo

(16,829 posts)
1. This is an AMAZING fundraising effort
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 12:12 AM
Nov 2016

considering it is all being done on social media and not on mass media. 4.5 million in 36 hours is just unheard of.

FarPoint

(12,409 posts)
2. Ok...
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 12:29 AM
Nov 2016

So, let's just call this a down payment... let's hold off on donations pending formal action by Stein. ...Yea, I have political trust issues...

mountain grammy

(26,622 posts)
17. The deadline for filing in Wisconsin
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 01:11 AM
Nov 2016

is tomorrow. The fund has enough money to do it. If they do, I donate to the cause.

BigBearJohn

(11,410 posts)
28. You do what you want with your money. As for me, I am donating to the recount.
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 06:43 AM
Nov 2016

I can't be burned any worse than I have by other political groups.

eleny

(46,166 posts)
4. And it's still going at a stronger clip than I imagined it would...
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 12:33 AM
Nov 2016

...once it reached the 4.5

Intense mistrust of the election system because it's just too suspicious.

Archae

(46,328 posts)
5. But can we trust Stein?
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 12:36 AM
Nov 2016

We already know she's still an anti-vaxx loon.

And she has said some other stupid things in the past few years.

drm604

(16,230 posts)
8. I'm no fan of Stein, but I think that it's unlikely that she'll misuse those funds.
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 12:47 AM
Nov 2016

She would be committing a crime if she did.

jimlup

(7,968 posts)
10. Just to set the record straight
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 12:49 AM
Nov 2016

she was never an "anti-vaxx loon."


Stein in a Washington Post Interview:

"I think there’s no question that vaccines have been absolutely critical in ridding us of the scourge of many diseases — smallpox, polio, etc. So vaccines are an invaluable medication," Stein said. "Like any medication, they also should be — what shall we say? -- approved by a regulatory board that people can trust. And I think right now, that is the problem. That people do not trust a Food and Drug Administration, or even the CDC for that matter, where corporate influence and the pharmaceutical industry has a lot of influence."


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/07/29/jill-stein-on-vaccines-people-have-real-questions/

I voted for HRC and was somewhat disturbed by this comment because it is a little reckless for a presidential candidate but I wouldn't say she was a loon.

Archae

(46,328 posts)
14. Yeah, she was "just asking questions..."
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 12:57 AM
Nov 2016

And of course, the FDA/CDC/Monstrous Drug Company "big conspiracy."

&quot A)pproved by a regulatory board that people can trust."

Like who?

Politicians?

Snake-oil sales boards?
(It was them who pressured congress into nearly deregulating supplements)

BlueSpot

(855 posts)
11. This is not about vaccinations
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 12:52 AM
Nov 2016

Whole different subject.

It was worth it to me to send some $$ her way for this. Did I throw them down the toilet? Maybe. Time will tell. But, if it works, I helped make it happen. And that would make me feel really good.

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
25. I really don't see how
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 05:19 AM
Nov 2016

name calling is of any help to anyone and has been mentioned in another response, Stein was simply questioning the process and the certification of vaccines.

jimlup

(7,968 posts)
6. I agree with you about never getting over it...
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 12:45 AM
Nov 2016

Time will tell but I think that the results of November 8th were worse than a major step backwards. That was what George W. was in 2000.

This is significantly worse.

tinrobot

(10,903 posts)
13. If Hillary does it, people would claim she's a "sore loser"
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 12:56 AM
Nov 2016

If Stein does it, then it deflects those charges.

I wouldn't be surprised if Clinton campaign people have encouraged Stein.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
34. Yes. Hill has special constraints. Stein wants attention
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 08:16 AM
Nov 2016

and needs relevance. I don't trust Stein, I think she's a "loon" all by herself, but I donated in the hope that she will come through.

"MIT’s Rivest quotes his computer scientist colleague at George Washington University, Poorvi Vora: 'Brush your teeth. Eat your spinach. Audit your elections.' "

mnhtnbb

(31,391 posts)
33. Hillary conceded the election.
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 08:03 AM
Nov 2016

If you think there's some chance the results aren't accurate, you don't concede. Hillary conceded.

drm604

(16,230 posts)
12. And she's now increased the goal to 7 million.
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 12:53 AM
Nov 2016

And I think that she'll probably get that much, maybe more. Too bad she didn't put all of that effort into urging people to vote for Hillary. Still, I'm happy to see this effort.

ffr

(22,670 posts)
15. We may be asked for more, if things turn. F L O R I D A.
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 01:05 AM
Nov 2016

I read that Florida may be included, increasing the likelihood of HRC's actual expected election victory. $3 million was the number I saw.

BainsBane

(53,034 posts)
18. Florida is harder
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 01:13 AM
Nov 2016

A candidate can't request a recount, only the sec of state, who is Rep.
AFAIK there are no paper ballots to count. Everything is on machines, deliberately to avoid a recount.

 

Tiggeroshii

(11,088 posts)
22. Like most people and polls, she probably thought Clinton had those states in landslides
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 02:41 AM
Nov 2016

Which we may possibly find out was the case.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
23. Polls weren't showing Clinton was winning these states in landslides.
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 02:42 AM
Nov 2016

Polls were very close. You can aggregate 10 polls showing Clinton was going to win PA by 1 point and that's 90% (or whatever) probability of her winning. It doesn't change the fact that all these polls were close and people were way over confident for no apparent reason.

pnwmom

(108,978 posts)
24. No, she always said that Hillary would be worse than Trump.
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 03:09 AM
Nov 2016

And she also says she isn't trying to help Hillary now. I believe her. She's raising her own profile and any money she doesn't spend on recounts can be spent for her party's purposes.

 

AngryAmish

(25,704 posts)
35. I prefer to support Democrats
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 08:53 AM
Nov 2016

I think this thing will prove to be a work, like most everything in politics.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
26. No, she didn't
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 06:00 AM
Nov 2016

She actively wanted to defeat Hillary Clinton and thought she was as bad as Trump, if not worse.

Tom Rinaldo

(22,913 posts)
36. I agree, but election integrity is is a core issue in it's own right
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 10:32 AM
Nov 2016

A lot of us suspect that lack of it resulted in our not having had a President Kerry rather than two terms of Bush. The issue of the potential for vote total manipulation has to be investigated and addressed - what better time to do it than now, before a President Trump gets sworn in?

DesertRat

(27,995 posts)
44. True, but I stand by my original point
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 11:57 PM
Nov 2016

If all Stein votes in WI had gone to Clinton, Clinton would have won the state WITHOUT a recount. Stein could/should have encouraged her supporters to vote for Clinton.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
27. She is scamming Democrats to give money to a person and party who fights against Democrats
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 06:02 AM
Nov 2016

This is literally the biggest fundraiser in the history of the Green Party. She is raising more money for the Green Party through these efforts than she did throughout her entire campaign by a large margin.

Democrats are literally contributing money to a party that works actively against it.

BigBearJohn

(11,410 posts)
30. I've spent more money on the Lotto then I have on Jill Stein, with less chance of
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 06:50 AM
Nov 2016

getting something back. I'd rather gamble on Jill Stein's doing a recount than to just sit around whining and complaining while waiting to see if Trump will make America great again.

Response to drm604 (Reply #38)

drm604

(16,230 posts)
37. It's not important, but I'm curious about something.
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 12:16 PM
Nov 2016

At this moment the amount raised is $4,870,099.60.

Why 60 cents? And this isn't just one person who donated an amount ending in .60. There have been varying amounts of cents as the total has increased, and it hasn't always been round amounts like 60. Is there some symbolic amount that people are donating for some reason?

 

demtenjeep

(31,997 posts)
41. it wont matter
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 12:58 PM
Nov 2016

people are throwing money into a black hole



People like me face losing everything because of disease and 50 K would make all the difference in the world but this effort is making millions and it won't change drumpth from being president


https://www.gofundme.com/pamelas-crohns-disease-relief

OnionPatch

(6,169 posts)
42. I just want someone do do some forensics
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 01:19 PM
Nov 2016

on the votes in those states. I'm not counting on turning the election around, just verifying the results and seeing where fraud may have occurred. We can't fight election fraud if we don't make an effort to see where it's happening and how. I contributed.

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