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RB TexLa

(17,003 posts)
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 01:52 AM Nov 2016

Yes, cause Mexicans don't deserve to make air conditioners





President-elect Donald Trump announced on Twitter that he has been “MAKING PROGRESS” keeping a Carrier Corp. factory in the U.S.

“I am working hard, even on Thanksgiving, trying to get Carrier A.C. Company to stay in the U.S. (Indiana). MAKING PROGRESS — Will know soon!”



https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-were-making-progress-keeping-carrier-plant-in-u-s-181944812.html
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Yes, cause Mexicans don't deserve to make air conditioners (Original Post) RB TexLa Nov 2016 OP
You're not losing your job, so why should you care? cpwm17 Nov 2016 #1
No question that Trump is a buffoon SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2016 #2
He found a parade, put himself in front & claims he's leading it. baldguy Nov 2016 #13
Ego...yuuuuuuuge. SammyWinstonJack Nov 2016 #14
It would depend on how he did it, I suppose petronius Nov 2016 #24
Yeah, I get that SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2016 #25
He also said he kept a Ford plant in the US, yet Ford claimed Trump had nothing to do with it. LanternWaste Nov 2016 #31
Agree 100% that Trump had nothing to do with either SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2016 #39
he is a lying asshole Skittles Nov 2016 #3
Absolutely true SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2016 #4
Yeah but it's kind of important not to let him take treestar Nov 2016 #37
I agree 100% about that SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2016 #38
I would rather see Americans make them Travis_0004 Nov 2016 #5
Like he did with the Ford plant BainsBane Nov 2016 #6
Exactly n/t SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2016 #7
Another Dump lie. N/t roamer65 Nov 2016 #8
Is he going to start having all of his products made in America? world wide wally Nov 2016 #9
What a weird subject line for this post oberliner Nov 2016 #10
That's basically what Trump is saying by trying to bully this company RB TexLa Nov 2016 #16
Now this poor company is being bullied. Got it. Dreamer Tatum Nov 2016 #17
I have always been a supporter of international economic integration RB TexLa Nov 2016 #23
Nice save in the middle of your performance. LanternWaste Nov 2016 #32
You have been on DU since it's inception? Your profile says 2007. Kingofalldems Nov 2016 #30
Other IDs, other times. Dreamer Tatum Nov 2016 #33
HVAC Manufacturing in Mexico oberliner Nov 2016 #18
How about his Daughter's made in china fashion crap ? JI7 Nov 2016 #11
Not only is this probably just more Trumpshit, but are we going to see a government by Tweet? TreasonousBastard Nov 2016 #12
Tweets and YouTube videos AngryAmish Nov 2016 #15
furnaces bigtree Nov 2016 #19
why doesn't mr trump start by having his shirts, ties etc. made in the USA??...HYPOCRITE spanone Nov 2016 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author Duckhunter935 Nov 2016 #26
Everybody poops, doncha know. (Sorry, can't resist a pun or an allusion.). Ant tblue37 Dec 2016 #48
Furnaces actually.... Adrahil Nov 2016 #21
From what I read madokie Nov 2016 #22
Even if Carrier were to reverse and stay in Indiana, no_hypocrisy Nov 2016 #27
Yep. Yavin4 Nov 2016 #43
Not at the expense of American workers losing their jobs jusy so their masters can rake in even more 50 Shades Of Blue Nov 2016 #28
They don't cool with us. pintobean Nov 2016 #29
Great, another union-busting democrat speaks his mind... Jokerman Nov 2016 #34
This message was self-deleted by its author kcr Nov 2016 #41
If you really think that keeping manufacturing jobs in the US is bad, then Yo_Mama Nov 2016 #35
Not at our expense, no they don't deserve to. jmg257 Nov 2016 #36
Only Americans are worthy of jobs? RB TexLa Nov 2016 #44
Americans should lose the jobs they already have so people in other countries can have them? WillowTree Nov 2016 #45
Nope - just about everyone is worthy of jobs. But they don't DESERVE ours. jmg257 Nov 2016 #46
American companies should employ Americans first, don't you think? davidn3600 Nov 2016 #40
So, who takes the loss? Carrier? The Unions? Who? Yavin4 Nov 2016 #42
Well apparently Carrier is staying. Per CNN & NYT... jmg257 Nov 2016 #47

SickOfTheOnePct

(7,290 posts)
2. No question that Trump is a buffoon
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 01:56 AM
Nov 2016

But if he's able to keep those Carrier jobs here in America, why is that a bad thing?

petronius

(26,602 posts)
24. It would depend on how he did it, I suppose
Sat Nov 26, 2016, 05:51 PM
Nov 2016

Keeping jobs in the US without sacrificing fair wages/benefits, workplace safety, and environmental protection would not be a bad thing. But I can imagine ways to 'keep jobs' that would not, in the larger picture, be entirely positive...

SickOfTheOnePct

(7,290 posts)
25. Yeah, I get that
Sat Nov 26, 2016, 05:53 PM
Nov 2016

I guess what I didn't articulate very well was my confusion at the title of the OP. To me, it came off as there being something wrong with trying to keep American jobs in America.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
31. He also said he kept a Ford plant in the US, yet Ford claimed Trump had nothing to do with it.
Mon Nov 28, 2016, 12:11 PM
Nov 2016

He also said he kept a Ford plant in the US, yet Ford claimed Trump had nothing to do with the decision either way. Why is that a bad thing?

SickOfTheOnePct

(7,290 posts)
39. Agree 100% that Trump had nothing to do with either
Mon Nov 28, 2016, 05:55 PM
Nov 2016

My comments are more about the tone of the OP, which to me, came across not as being pissed that Trump was taking credit, but pissed that the jobs might stay here instead of going to Mexico.

Skittles

(153,164 posts)
3. he is a lying asshole
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 01:56 AM
Nov 2016

he took credit for Ford and that was bullshit too

he knows his idiot fans will believe ANYTHING he says

SickOfTheOnePct

(7,290 posts)
4. Absolutely true
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 02:02 AM
Nov 2016

However, I'm still confused as to why it would be a bad thing to keep those jobs here rather than them going to Mexico.

So what if Trump is lying and has nothing to do with them staying (if they do stay)? To me, the important point would be that they stay.

SickOfTheOnePct

(7,290 posts)
38. I agree 100% about that
Mon Nov 28, 2016, 05:53 PM
Nov 2016

But the point of the OP wasn't that it was bad Trump was taking undeserved credit, it was that it was bad that the jobs might not go to Mexico.

BainsBane

(53,034 posts)
6. Like he did with the Ford plant
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 02:10 AM
Nov 2016

Keeping jobs in the US is good. Do I believe Trump is doing a damn thing? No.

 

RB TexLa

(17,003 posts)
16. That's basically what Trump is saying by trying to bully this company
Sat Nov 26, 2016, 01:39 PM
Nov 2016

into doing what he wants them to do.

Dreamer Tatum

(10,926 posts)
17. Now this poor company is being bullied. Got it.
Sat Nov 26, 2016, 01:49 PM
Nov 2016

I've been on DU since its inception, and I cannot count the number of threads lamenting the loss of American manufacturing jobs. Now, simply because you don't like the person claiming to do something about it, you don't want those jobs.

What a childish, unserious attitude. Here is a link to a video that might interest you:



Those are real people who are losing real jobs that they wanted to keep.

(I realize that for the simpleminded, I am now a Trump supporter. What you should be worried about is how many Trump supporters are in that video, including some who weren't supporters on the day that was shot)

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
32. Nice save in the middle of your performance.
Mon Nov 28, 2016, 12:13 PM
Nov 2016

Nice save in the middle of your performance. Allegations of our own righteousness are important.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
18. HVAC Manufacturing in Mexico
Sat Nov 26, 2016, 02:36 PM
Nov 2016

Mexico is home to a diverse manufacturing industry where a wide range of products are assembled in the country and exported to countries around the globe. The automotive and aerospace industries in the country have experienced significant growth over the years, and both are currently thriving. However, there is another Mexican production industry growing as well: heating and cooling.

https://offshoregroup.com/industries/hvac-manufacturing-in-mexico/

Response to spanone (Reply #20)

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
21. Furnaces actually....
Sat Nov 26, 2016, 04:05 PM
Nov 2016

As a tweet from the union rep said, perhaps Mr. Trump would be aware the workers whose jobs are being shipped south made furnaces, not air conditioners.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
22. From what I read
Sat Nov 26, 2016, 04:09 PM
Nov 2016

it wasn't the Air Conditioner manufacturing that were being moved but rather the Heating units. Something that most of the Mexican people hardly have much use for

What that all means I have no idea

no_hypocrisy

(46,117 posts)
27. Even if Carrier were to reverse and stay in Indiana,
Sat Nov 26, 2016, 06:53 PM
Nov 2016

I believe it would be on the condition of union give-backs, e.g., salary, pension, health benefits, working hours, overtime, etc.

Trump would claim the credit and a very bad precedent would be made for other companies to blackmail workers to accept less than they have now.

50 Shades Of Blue

(10,004 posts)
28. Not at the expense of American workers losing their jobs jusy so their masters can rake in even more
Sat Nov 26, 2016, 07:07 PM
Nov 2016

money for themselves, they don't. Nobody else does, under those circumstances of screwing over American workers

Jokerman

(3,518 posts)
34. Great, another union-busting democrat speaks his mind...
Mon Nov 28, 2016, 04:53 PM
Nov 2016

and makes the case for why working people vote republican.

Response to Jokerman (Reply #34)

Yo_Mama

(8,303 posts)
35. If you really think that keeping manufacturing jobs in the US is bad, then
Mon Nov 28, 2016, 05:02 PM
Nov 2016

you are not helping the Democratic party.

You MAY just inspire people to vote for the other party.

 

davidn3600

(6,342 posts)
40. American companies should employ Americans first, don't you think?
Mon Nov 28, 2016, 05:57 PM
Nov 2016

It's not our duty to provide jobs in developing nations, especially if we have Americans out of work.

Posts like yours is the reason Democrats lost this election. You care more about jobs in Mexico than jobs in America.

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