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Cyrano

(15,041 posts) Fri Nov 25, 2016, 01:10 PM Nov 2016

Here's why Trump won: Guns; God; Racism

Guns: Tens of millions of people own guns in this country. They believed the propaganda that the Democrats would confiscate their guns and that the Republicans would expand their gun rights.

God: I'm not talking about everyone who goes to church on Sunday. I'm talking about the people who listen to whatever their biased pastors (and TV Jesus con men) tell them and they vote accordingly. Much of this goes on in the South, but it's also in many other parts of the country. It's a fanaticism that is on a par with the Taliban and even ISIS. It's about people who believe in male domination, and God's intentions which of course favor European white people.

Racism: See God above. This accounts for much of the racism in this country. Add to that those who (consciously, or subconsciously) are white supremacists.

I believe that these three issues (along with multiple voter suppression tactics) put Trump over the top.

On edit: Reason #4 was Hillary hatred. There really is a vast right wing conspiracy and they have spent the past 25 -30 years beating up on her.

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Here's why Trump won: Guns; God; Racism (Original Post) Cyrano Nov 2016 OP

Disagree.... brooklynite Nov 2016 #1

1000000000000 and if Democrats don't realize this they will get destroyed again in 2018 and 2020 Statistical Nov 2016 #8

Yes, plus immigration. We'd better get this concept in our heads Yo_Mama Nov 2016 #10

The other night my hubby and I decided to check out a Christian channel kimbutgar Nov 2016 #2

There are many reasons other than those you can't blame any single issue. doc03 Nov 2016 #3

Comey could not have happened if HRC had followed thw rules! Sam1 Nov 2016 #4

If Comey followed the rules he wouldn't have produced that doc03 Nov 2016 #7

Add DNC/Debbie infuriating Bernie supporters RiverStone Nov 2016 #9

Ajreed. All through the campaign I've been afraid too many gullible peole would believe the napi21 Nov 2016 #5

This message was self-deleted by its author Cyrano Nov 2016 #6

brooklynite

(94,573 posts)

1. Disagree....

Reply to Cyrano (Original post)

Fri Nov 25, 2016, 01:17 PM

Nov 2016

...those issues are important to some, but they weren't Obama voters in 2008 and 2012.

Clinton lost because under-educated white voters were unhappy about their economic situation, and chose the guy who said there were easy answers (trader wars, "force" business to keep jobs in the US, kick out immigrants, etc.).

Statistical

(19,264 posts)

8. 1000000000000 and if Democrats don't realize this they will get destroyed again in 2018 and 2020

Reply to brooklynite (Reply #1)

Fri Nov 25, 2016, 01:28 PM

Nov 2016

Yo_Mama

(8,303 posts)

10. Yes, plus immigration. We'd better get this concept in our heads

Reply to brooklynite (Reply #1)

Fri Nov 25, 2016, 01:52 PM

Nov 2016

before too long.

BTW, it wasn't all under-educated people, or even white people. I know a bunch of people with advanced degrees (generally harder fields, like medicine, engineering, science) who voted for Trump. They were all possible Sanders voters, though.

Unless the trade imbalance is addressed, most people in the US are doomed to get poorer every year. They may not have found Trump too credible, but at least he believed it was a problem.

kimbutgar

(21,153 posts)

2. The other night my hubby and I decided to check out a Christian channel

Reply to Cyrano (Original post)

Fri Nov 25, 2016, 01:18 PM

Nov 2016

It was so over the top and the preachers were so phony. We were laughing at the ridiculous stuff they were saying. I see now why the orange hitler won these Christian rubes. He talked the same way to them.

doc03

(35,338 posts)

3. There are many reasons other than those you can't blame any single issue.

Reply to Cyrano (Original post)

Fri Nov 25, 2016, 01:19 PM

Nov 2016

NAFTA
ACA
gay rights
BLM
cop shootings
Putin's interference in our election
WikiLeaks
Comey
The news media
That is just to name a few
Oh the damn EC

Sam1

(498 posts)

4. Comey could not have happened if HRC had followed thw rules!

Reply to doc03 (Reply #3)

Fri Nov 25, 2016, 01:24 PM

Nov 2016

There is more to doing the right thing then it isn't illegal.

doc03

(35,338 posts)

7. If Comey followed the rules he wouldn't have produced that

Reply to Sam1 (Reply #4)

Fri Nov 25, 2016, 01:28 PM

Nov 2016

letter 9 days before the election. Comey also wouldn't have happened if the
Republicans hadn't gone on a two year witch hunt to drive her numbers down.
They even gloated about that. What is ironic if she would have used a government server the
Russians would have hacked into it, maybe that is what pisses them off so much.

RiverStone

(7,228 posts)

9. Add DNC/Debbie infuriating Bernie supporters

Reply to doc03 (Reply #3)

Fri Nov 25, 2016, 01:45 PM

Nov 2016

I voted for Hillary, so moved past "Bernie or Bust" - though it wasn't easy.

napi21

(45,806 posts)

5. Ajreed. All through the campaign I've been afraid too many gullible peole would believe the

Reply to Cyrano (Original post)

Fri Nov 25, 2016, 01:26 PM

Nov 2016

Con's BS about bringing jobs back to the US. IMO it's impossible to do that unless some complete idiot eliminated corporate income taxes completely, and I don't THINK even the on would do THAT!

I predict that all those people who believed him are going to be worse off and more depressed after they find out they've been conned. With some it's already happening with their anger at him not continuing the investigating Hillary.

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