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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 02:57 PM Nov 2016

Electoral College must reject Trump unless he sells his business, top lawyers for Bush and Obama say

Judd LegumFollow
Editor-In-Chief, ThinkProgress
4 hrs ago

Ethics lawyers for the last two presidents are in agreement.

Members of the Electoral College should not make Donald Trump the next president unless he sells his companies and puts the proceeds in a blind trust, according to the top ethics lawyers for the last two presidents.

Richard Painter, Chief Ethics Counsel for George W. Bush, and Norman Eisen, Chief Ethics Counsel for Barack Obama, believe that if Trump continues to retain ownership over his sprawling business interests by the time the electors meet on December 19, they should reject Trump.

In an email to ThinkProgress, Eisen explained that “the founders did not want any foreign payments to the president. Period.” This principle is enshrined in Article 1, Section 9 of the Constitution, which bars office holders from accepting “any present, emolument, office, or title, of any kind whatever, from any king, prince, or foreign state.”

This provision was specifically created to prevent the President, most of all, from being corrupted by foreign influences. Virginia Governor Edmund Jennings Randolph addressed the issue directly during a Constitutional debate in June 1788, noting that a violation of the provision by the President would be grounds for impeachment. (Randolph was also a delegate to the Constitutional Convention.)

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Electoral College must reject Trump unless he sells his business, top lawyers for Bush and Obama say (Original Post) DonViejo Nov 2016 OP
Sure seems like common sense Fast Walker 52 Nov 2016 #1
I don't think Tribblehead is going to be President long (if at all) wryter2000 Nov 2016 #2
Impeach him. DK504 Nov 2016 #3
Then we get Prez "give the miscarriage a funeral" Pence. Trump must go BEFORE he is ratified... Hekate Nov 2016 #10
Federalist No. 10 Factions bucolic_frolic Nov 2016 #4
Well yes, haven't you seen all the coverage!!! ShakeWell Nov 2016 #5
The key to issue is that to the average ear this sounds like a personal choice rather than Law. Ford_Prefect Nov 2016 #6
Ill start holding my breath now. nt Javaman Nov 2016 #7
Who enforces this and when? Ford_Prefect Nov 2016 #8
His complete ignorance of the Constitution regarding this conflict should be enough to impeach him BSdetect Nov 2016 #9
KnR Hekate Nov 2016 #11
 

Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts)
1. Sure seems like common sense
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 03:41 PM
Nov 2016

His conflicts of interest are an order of magnitude beyond anything we've ever seen before. Not to mention still no taxes. God knows what he's hiding.

wryter2000

(46,049 posts)
2. I don't think Tribblehead is going to be President long (if at all)
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 03:47 PM
Nov 2016

I think the Republicans (minus the Tea Party bozos) will get rid of him for the sake of their party. Of course, that means President Pence. Gag.

DK504

(3,847 posts)
3. Impeach him.
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 03:56 PM
Nov 2016

“ ... the founders did not want any foreign payments to the president. Period.” This principle is enshrined in Article 1, Section 9 of the Constitution, which bars office holders from accepting “any present, emolument, office, or title, of any kind whatever, from any king, prince, or foreign state.”

So how the hell can he be called President since he has refused to do anything resembling what a president must do or achieve the office with out achieving it via illegal activities??

WTF?

Hekate

(90,692 posts)
10. Then we get Prez "give the miscarriage a funeral" Pence. Trump must go BEFORE he is ratified...
Sat Nov 26, 2016, 02:25 AM
Nov 2016

....by the EC. That way neither of them will defile the White House.

bucolic_frolic

(43,168 posts)
4. Federalist No. 10 Factions
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 04:01 PM
Nov 2016

Where Founders saw patriotic long-term visionaries - people like
themselves - we have installed political hacks beholden to their
factions, now known as parties. We're going to get these groups to
worry about ethics? The Constitution? Conflicts of interest? They ARE
their own conflict of interest.

ShakeWell

(28 posts)
5. Well yes, haven't you seen all the coverage!!!
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 04:22 PM
Nov 2016


Oh wait... that's right, there hasn't been any since he hasn't had a presser since September and conflicts of interest that will inevitably be constitutionally challenged for impeachable offenses are not nearly as sexy as email.

Ford_Prefect

(7,901 posts)
6. The key to issue is that to the average ear this sounds like a personal choice rather than Law.
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 04:30 PM
Nov 2016

And the scale of his empire is so broad that it doesn't fit under a catchphrase.

BSdetect

(8,998 posts)
9. His complete ignorance of the Constitution regarding this conflict should be enough to impeach him
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 10:05 PM
Nov 2016

The moron is capable of any crime.

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