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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,010 posts)
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 03:47 PM Nov 2016

We Tracked Down A Fake-News Creator In The Suburbs. Here's What We Learned

Long story well worth a read.

A lot of fake and misleading news stories were shared across social media during the election. One that got a lot of traffic had this headline: "FBI Agent Suspected In Hillary Email Leaks Found Dead In Apparent Murder-Suicide." The story is completely false, but it was shared on Facebook over half a million times.

We wondered who was behind that story and why it was written. It appeared on a site that had the look and feel of a local newspaper. Denverguardian.com even had the local weather. But it had only one news story — the fake one.

We tried to look up who owned it and hit a wall. The site was registered anonymously. So we brought in some professional help.

By day, John Jansen is head of engineering at Master-McNeil Inc., a tech company in Berkeley, Calif. In the interest of real news he helped us track down the owner of Denverguardian.com.

Jansen started by looking at the site's history. "Commonly that's called scraping or crawling websites," he says.

Jansen is kind of like an archaeologist. He says that nothing you do on the Web disappears — it just gets buried — like a fossil. But if you do some digging you'll find those fossils and learn a lot of history.


http://www.npr.org/sections/alltechconsidered/2016/11/23/503146770/npr-finds-the-head-of-a-covert-fake-news-operation-in-the-suburbs?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=npr&utm_term=nprnews&utm_content=2050

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We Tracked Down A Fake-News Creator In The Suburbs. Here's What We Learned (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2016 OP
This is interesting: Skinner Nov 2016 #1
Not the first time I've read something like that, either. Thanks for highlighting that. eppur_se_muova Nov 2016 #3
Conversely, when I pointed out a few fake stories to Facebook trumpsters, progressoid Nov 2016 #5
Excellent find. Strange, everything is so public, yet this guy enjoyed the luridness of fucking up Eleanors38 Nov 2016 #2
This (fake news) is why we lost the election. WhiteTara Nov 2016 #4
Fake newspaper - the old Donny Ferguson trick mahatmakanejeeves Nov 2016 #6
The best part of the interview with the news-faker: bhikkhu Nov 2016 #7

Skinner

(63,645 posts)
1. This is interesting:
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 03:55 PM
Nov 2016
"We've tried to do similar things to liberals. It just has never worked, it never takes off. You'll get debunked within the first two comments and then the whole thing just kind of fizzles out."

eppur_se_muova

(36,266 posts)
3. Not the first time I've read something like that, either. Thanks for highlighting that.
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 04:30 PM
Nov 2016

Big K&R for this thread.

progressoid

(49,991 posts)
5. Conversely, when I pointed out a few fake stories to Facebook trumpsters,
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 04:35 PM
Nov 2016

they don't care.

Facts are meaningless to them.

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
2. Excellent find. Strange, everything is so public, yet this guy enjoyed the luridness of fucking up
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 04:09 PM
Nov 2016

from (for a time) an anonymous "place." And he would do it again. Resonates with the criminal who loves the spectacle of screwing with others as musch as the crime.

"Crawling/scraping websites." I see a movie in this.

WhiteTara

(29,718 posts)
4. This (fake news) is why we lost the election.
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 04:30 PM
Nov 2016

Coler doesn't think fake news is going away. One of his sites — NationalReport.net — was flagged as fake news under a new Google policy, and Google stopped running ads on it. But Coler had other options.

"There are literally hundreds of ad networks," he says. "Early last week, my inbox was just filled every day with people because they knew that Google was cracking down — hundreds of people wanting to work with my sites."

Coler says he has been talking it over with his wife and may be getting out of the fake-news racket. But, he says, dozens, maybe hundreds of entrepreneurs will be ready to take his place. And he thinks it will only get harder to tell their websites from real news sites. They know now that fake news sells and they will only be in it for the money.

bhikkhu

(10,718 posts)
7. The best part of the interview with the news-faker:
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 10:43 PM
Nov 2016

"We tried to do similar things to the liberals; it just never works, never takes off. You'll get debunked within the first wo comments and then the whole thing just fizzles out".

That, to me, says clearly which side has integrity and intelligence, and which side really doesn't. As one who has fact-checked many things over the years, including many here, it also rings very true. If I read something that sounds like unlikely human behavior, or "too good to be true" in a "good for our side" way, I'll always fact-check. And if it isn't true I'll always say so, and provide background and references. To me its a basic matter of how I think, and most of that was formed in college. That's where you assume every statement you make will be questioned, so you have background and references ready at hand, and you're expected to question what you hear as well. Its good for the mind.

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