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Siwsan

(26,289 posts)
Sat Nov 26, 2016, 11:06 PM Nov 2016

Gee, a Trump supporter just told me she is going to pray for me. I feel SOOO much better, now



Of course, this was after she let me know that if she said what she REALLY thinks about people like me, she wouldn't be much of a Christian.

My response was, any "christian" who would vote for Trump is not someone I want praying to anyone, for me, so she needn't waste her time.

Smugly delusional twits are insufferable.
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Gee, a Trump supporter just told me she is going to pray for me. I feel SOOO much better, now (Original Post) Siwsan Nov 2016 OP
Tell her Trump doesn't believe in God and she should pray for herself now. nt TeamPooka Nov 2016 #1
If I hear from her again, I will! Siwsan Nov 2016 #4
haha... you're SO right! InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2016 #39
Our denomination's moderator had a good answer for that gratuitous Nov 2016 #2
That is a great response Siwsan Nov 2016 #5
Real Christians don't vote for a sexual assaulter and serial philanderer. roamer65 Nov 2016 #3
That's scary Lotusflower70 Nov 2016 #6
Trump voters seem to be the kind of people who use religion to rationalize everything they do Siwsan Nov 2016 #9
Hypocrites Lotusflower70 Nov 2016 #13
There is a definite issue with tunnel vision, among the Trumpsters Siwsan Nov 2016 #15
"I'll pray for you" is just Fundie speak for "Fuck you" Takket Nov 2016 #7
Well, I hadn't quite thought of it that way, but I believe you are on to something! Siwsan Nov 2016 #10
i don't mean to be too harsh Takket Nov 2016 #12
It's true, in a context like the one you describe. Mariana Nov 2016 #27
Next time reply with "Bless your heart." SMC22307 Nov 2016 #41
I would tell her that she had better pray for the whole world! Especially her own soul. The Wielding Truth Nov 2016 #8
When you tell them things like that, they look at you like you are speaking Greek Siwsan Nov 2016 #11
I hope that they, for one split second, realize their own hypocrisy. The Wielding Truth Nov 2016 #14
Yeah... and the Pope prayed for Trump to lose. nt kerouac2 Nov 2016 #16
Somehow I think this person wouldn't consider the Pope to be a Christian Siwsan Nov 2016 #17
Tell her she will have plenty of time to pray as she waits in line.... Tikki Nov 2016 #18
I believe the appropriate response is- Snarkoleptic Nov 2016 #19
Tell her to learn Russian SHRED Nov 2016 #20
Jesus will pay all your bills. sarcasmo Nov 2016 #21
Just tell her you'll think for her. alarimer Nov 2016 #22
She must have skipped over that part Cryptoad Nov 2016 #23
my response to your heading Equinox Moon Nov 2016 #24
Agree 100% Siwsan Nov 2016 #32
What gets me is how they come off like they're NEVER wrong. Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2016 #25
Just assume they were saying they were sending you best wishes. applegrove Nov 2016 #26
Somehow I doubt that was her intention Siwsan Nov 2016 #35
Not good. applegrove Nov 2016 #44
As the Great-Great Grand Daughter of a reputed 'witch', I might have some counter measures. Siwsan Nov 2016 #45
I am always genuinely offended by the pray for someone meme. PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 2016 #28
Last year, when I lost so much of my family, I felt people's sincere prayers as positive energy Siwsan Nov 2016 #37
You have a better and more gracious attitude than I do. PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 2016 #42
My beliefs are pretty out of the "mainstream", too Siwsan Nov 2016 #43
As a Scripture reading Atheist, safeinOhio Nov 2016 #29
1000 smirkymonkey Nov 2016 #30
You should have told her ms liberty Nov 2016 #31
LOL - that's perfect! Vinca Nov 2016 #33
Clinically proven masturbation is more effective.........n/t HAB911 Nov 2016 #34
Dick Cheney. Darth Vader. Satan. Thats power workinclasszero Nov 2016 #36
Ok - that gave me chills. The really bad kind. Siwsan Nov 2016 #38
Every republican Christian in particular needs to know what they have unleashed on this country workinclasszero Nov 2016 #40
My husband has a cousin who is religious and is being petty due to the election maryellen99 Nov 2016 #46
Sounds like a total weirdo! Madam45for2923 Nov 2016 #47

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
2. Our denomination's moderator had a good answer for that
Sat Nov 26, 2016, 11:11 PM
Nov 2016

The Moderator for the Annual Conference is selected new each year, and during the year before he or she presides over or moderates the Conference, visits congregations around the country. This last year's moderator had pastored my church many years ago, and he had a weekend visit with us. He said he appreciated hearing people's interests and concerns, but didn't much care for the "I'll be praying for you, Brother." He said, "Pray for yourself! I'm okay."

I thought that was a good response.

Siwsan

(26,289 posts)
5. That is a great response
Sat Nov 26, 2016, 11:15 PM
Nov 2016

This was someone I hadn't heard from in 3 weeks, and thought I never would, again.

roamer65

(36,747 posts)
3. Real Christians don't vote for a sexual assaulter and serial philanderer.
Sat Nov 26, 2016, 11:12 PM
Nov 2016

I'd tell her to shove her prayers up her ass.

Lotusflower70

(3,077 posts)
6. That's scary
Sat Nov 26, 2016, 11:17 PM
Nov 2016

I would be concerned about that. I hate all the smug braggarts gloating like this victory is something wonderful. The majority of those that voted for him were played for suckers. They aren't going to benefit from him. That ugly religious slant of theirs is not helpful.

Siwsan

(26,289 posts)
9. Trump voters seem to be the kind of people who use religion to rationalize everything they do
Sat Nov 26, 2016, 11:23 PM
Nov 2016

And they use it to condemn anyone whose beliefs, on anything, are different from theirs. But then people have been doing this for as long as there have been people and religions.

Lotusflower70

(3,077 posts)
13. Hypocrites
Sat Nov 26, 2016, 11:27 PM
Nov 2016

They are such hypocrites. The talking about family values and yet Trump, Giuliani and Gingrich have all cheated on their wives. So I guess the family values bit is selective. I know that they aspire to go back to 1950 but we can't go backwards. Thank God. See what I did there?

Siwsan

(26,289 posts)
15. There is a definite issue with tunnel vision, among the Trumpsters
Sat Nov 26, 2016, 11:33 PM
Nov 2016

In a perfect world, we could give them their own country, and watch from the sidelines as they slowly start judging and then turning on each other. It would be like 'Lord of the Flies' on steroids.

Takket

(21,621 posts)
12. i don't mean to be too harsh
Sat Nov 26, 2016, 11:27 PM
Nov 2016

if you tell someone you have a critical illness or injury, and they say they will pray for you, that's sincere belief they can have God help you.

but if you are arguing about Trump... that's an FU lol

Mariana

(14,860 posts)
27. It's true, in a context like the one you describe.
Sun Nov 27, 2016, 02:25 AM
Nov 2016

They say that deliberately to make you angry and upset you. I used to hear that from time to time when I lived in Texas. They know you can't really protest that without sounding intolerant and petty, even when you know damn well they're saying it to provoke you. Besides, even if they're telling the truth and actually do pray for you, they're probably praying for God to unleash some wrath on you, because, you know, you deserve it for not being good Christians like they are. I would just pretend to believe they are being sincere, smile big and thank them profusely for their kindness. That confuses the hell out of them.

Siwsan

(26,289 posts)
11. When you tell them things like that, they look at you like you are speaking Greek
Sat Nov 26, 2016, 11:26 PM
Nov 2016

They become befuddled. Actually, it is kind of amusing to watch that whole slack-jaw thing slide across their faces.

Siwsan

(26,289 posts)
17. Somehow I think this person wouldn't consider the Pope to be a Christian
Sat Nov 26, 2016, 11:35 PM
Nov 2016

She just comes across as one of those old timey holy rolling down the aisles anti-papists.

Tikki

(14,559 posts)
18. Tell her she will have plenty of time to pray as she waits in line....
Sun Nov 27, 2016, 12:18 AM
Nov 2016

to find out if she is worthy of having her pu**y grabbed by her new god.

Tikki

Siwsan

(26,289 posts)
35. Somehow I doubt that was her intention
Sun Nov 27, 2016, 09:24 AM
Nov 2016

She may very well have been praying for me to fall off of a cliff. She was pretty vile, earlier. Now she's migrated into being ultra sanctimonious.

Siwsan

(26,289 posts)
45. As the Great-Great Grand Daughter of a reputed 'witch', I might have some counter measures.
Sun Nov 27, 2016, 03:06 PM
Nov 2016

Great Great Grandma, who lived in the Cumberland Mountains, was actually a healer/herbalist but there were those who attributed other powers to her. And who knows...... The family doesn't really like to talk about her.

Maybe I should do some deep meditation and see if I can activate some of that Atavistinc DNA.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,895 posts)
28. I am always genuinely offended by the pray for someone meme.
Sun Nov 27, 2016, 02:33 AM
Nov 2016

What horseshit.

While I try to be respectful of other beliefs, this is just the most outstanding example of superstition at its finest.

I'm kind of reminded of some old story about some Christian being offended at an atheist not believing in God. So the atheist says, "Do you believe in Zeus?"

No, says the Christian.

Okay, that's one God you don't believe in, says the Christian. How about Osiris?

Well, of course not.

Okay, so that's two.

And the atheist continues, asking about several more Gods, and then finally says, "Okay then, I only not believe in more more God than you don't believe in."

Sadly, most Christians really will not get the point of that little story.

Siwsan

(26,289 posts)
37. Last year, when I lost so much of my family, I felt people's sincere prayers as positive energy
Sun Nov 27, 2016, 09:32 AM
Nov 2016

I think that's really what prayer is. Much like chicken soup, it can't hurt, if offered in the right spirit. But when someone who has such obvious disdain for me says they are offering prayers, I interpret that as casting curses.

I claim no knowledge about the powers that might be out there or authority over anyone's right to believe or disbelieve, as they wish. I do try to not offend anyone, as long as they don't turn their beliefs on me and others.

And I totally get the point of your story, and would love to use it, when the occasion presents.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,895 posts)
42. You have a better and more gracious attitude than I do.
Sun Nov 27, 2016, 01:50 PM
Nov 2016

Despite the grumpiness I asserted above, I do try to keep in mind that when a personal friend who is a sincere believer says she'll pray for me, she only means well. I try not to be rude to them.

I happen to have my own spiritual beliefs that are quite out of the mainstream, and while I believe those things quite fervently, and I often interpret the world and what is happening all around me to that take of things, I don't find I need to inform others about what I think.

That said, if some Trumpista were to say he or she is praying for me, I might say I'm praying for Trump's early death. There were, after all, "Christian" ministers who prayed for ill to happen to Obama.

Siwsan

(26,289 posts)
43. My beliefs are pretty out of the "mainstream", too
Sun Nov 27, 2016, 01:55 PM
Nov 2016

I come from a family of hard core Catholics and Baptists. When I started evolving into my own form of spirituality, I had to keep it to myself, for fear of what I'd be dealing with from some pretty judgmental people.

And what I tell trumpsters is, I hope that they, and Trump, get absolutely everything they deserve. They don't usually understand the true message behind what I've said.

safeinOhio

(32,714 posts)
29. As a Scripture reading Atheist,
Sun Nov 27, 2016, 08:09 AM
Nov 2016

I have quoted the Sermon on the Mt. many times to my religious friends.

Please don't pray for me, pray as Jesus says to. Lock yourself in a closet and lock the door because if you pray in silence your prayers will be answered in silence. Then do not pray for me or anyone else. Only pray for God's will be done. You can not possibly know what God's will is if you do not know what Jesus says.

ms liberty

(8,595 posts)
31. You should have told her
Sun Nov 27, 2016, 08:33 AM
Nov 2016

That 98% of prayers are deflected by orbiting satellites and never reach their destination, according to an investigative report by well respected journalists at The Onion.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
36. Dick Cheney. Darth Vader. Satan. Thats power
Sun Nov 27, 2016, 09:30 AM
Nov 2016

Friday, Nov 18, 2016 03:32 PM CST
“Dick Cheney. Darth Vader. Satan. That’s power”: Steve Bannon speaks out for first time since being named Donald Trump’s top White House adviser
http://www.salon.com/2016/11/18/dick-cheney-darth-vader-satan-that-is-power-steve-bannon-speaks-out-for-first-time-since-being-named-donald-trumps-top-white-house-adviser/

Show her this and ask her why she put an admirer of Satan and darkness into the white house.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
40. Every republican Christian in particular needs to know what they have unleashed on this country
Sun Nov 27, 2016, 01:18 PM
Nov 2016

A nazi lover of darkness and Satan is Resident Trump's senior adviser.

maryellen99

(3,789 posts)
46. My husband has a cousin who is religious and is being petty due to the election
Sun Nov 27, 2016, 03:54 PM
Nov 2016

I think she got upset that I posted The H and I'm with her the morning of the election. My husband has early stage kidney cancer and when I posted on Monday that he's having surgery(he has kidney disease as well and you have to be cancer free for 5 years to get on the transplant list.) She totally ignored my post but wished his other cousin a happy wedding anniversary

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