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babylonsister

(171,073 posts)
Mon Nov 28, 2016, 06:51 PM Nov 2016

Potential Trump Pick for Homeland Security Wants to Send up to 1 Million People to Gitmo


Potential Trump Pick for Homeland Security Wants to Send up to 1 Million People to Gitmo
Seriously.

Pema Levy
Nov. 28, 2016 4:43 PM


Donald Trump was scheduled to meet Monday with Milwaukee County Sheriff David Clarke Jr., a Trump supporter and surrogate during the campaign, who is now reportedly being considered to head the Department of Homeland Security. Clarke is known for his extreme views on policing—including his conviction there is a war on cops but no police brutality—and for his attacks on Black Lives Matter. One of his most out-there positions: suspend the constitutional rights of up to a million people, and hold them indefinitely at the US prison in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.

Clarke's extremist approach to homeland security is no secret. In his upcoming memoir, Cop Under Fire: Moving Beyond Hashtags of Race, Crime and Politics for a Better America, he advocates treating American citizens suspected of terrorism as "enemy combatants," questioning them without an attorney, and holding them indefinitely, the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel reported. Their cases would be handled by a military tribunal rather than a traditional court.

But a year ago, Clarke went further and called for rounding up Americans who sympathize with terrorists and shipping them off to an offshore prison. During a December 2015 segment of his show, The People's Sheriff, on Glenn Beck's TheBlaze radio network, Clarke suggested that any person who posts pro-terrorist sentiments on social media be arrested, deprived of the constitutional protection against unlawful imprisonment (known as habeas corpus), and sent to Guantanamo Bay indefinitely. He estimated the number of people who could be imprisoned under his proposal could reach 1 million. Presumably, this would include American citizens. (The Democratic research group American Bridge caught Clarke proposing this idea.)

"I suggest that our commander in chief ought to utilize Article I, Section 9 and take all of these individuals that are suspected, these ones on the internet spewing jihadi rhetoric… to scoop them up, charge them with treason and, under habeas corpus, detain them indefinitely at Gitmo," Clarke said.

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Listen to Clarke's comments here (at link):

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/11/sheriff-clarke-trump-terrorists-guantanamo-bay
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Potential Trump Pick for Homeland Security Wants to Send up to 1 Million People to Gitmo (Original Post) babylonsister Nov 2016 OP
K&R Solly Mack Nov 2016 #1
I'll see you all in the Liberal Gulag! octoberlib Nov 2016 #2
My blood just ran cold. sheshe2 Nov 2016 #3
Mine, too. nt babylonsister Nov 2016 #5
So, it has come to this....we get a gulag. dixiegrrrrl Nov 2016 #7
When the president himself brer cat Nov 2016 #8
As I have said , this is a coup... pbmus Nov 2016 #4
SHERIFF David Clarke Jr. is one terrifying person. democrank Nov 2016 #6
that fellow is an extreme nut fucking case... spanone Nov 2016 #9
That many people will make that end of Cuba sink. lpbk2713 Nov 2016 #10
You win. GentryDixon Nov 2016 #14
Clarke is a psycho. He makes Trump look almost rational by comparison. TwilightZone Nov 2016 #11
I've seen this movie before Renew Deal Nov 2016 #12
"indefinitely" moondust Nov 2016 #13
America has low standards for law enforcement. Dawson Leery Nov 2016 #17
Another Holocaust PatrickforO Nov 2016 #15
Another addition to the Insane Con Posse.. vkkv Nov 2016 #16
Don't follow illegal orders! NightWatcher Nov 2016 #18
Didn't see this before my OP, but still affirm I'm fully dedicated to Isis. moriah Nov 2016 #19
Meanwhile, the rest of us want to go back to England. tclambert Nov 2016 #20
logistics alert.... getagrip_already Nov 2016 #21

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
7. So, it has come to this....we get a gulag.
Mon Nov 28, 2016, 07:25 PM
Nov 2016

Every country that supported the rounding up of a "suspected terrorist" with no proof or trial has found that hundreds of citizens have been reported by people who want to settle scores.
All it takes is a phone call ( see something, say something, remember???) and perhaps a small reward to smear a neighbor, relative, boss, co-workers, etc.

brer cat

(24,578 posts)
8. When the president himself
Mon Nov 28, 2016, 07:31 PM
Nov 2016

lives to extract revenge on those who slight him, it would be natural for the citizens to want to do the same. Very scary s#$% here.

democrank

(11,096 posts)
6. SHERIFF David Clarke Jr. is one terrifying person.
Mon Nov 28, 2016, 07:15 PM
Nov 2016

Trump likes him, thinks maybe he'd be just the ticket to head Homeland Security. That should send shivers down any decent citizen's spine.

TwilightZone

(25,471 posts)
11. Clarke is a psycho. He makes Trump look almost rational by comparison.
Mon Nov 28, 2016, 08:07 PM
Nov 2016

Thank you, US media, for giving this guy a platform for the past few years.

moondust

(19,993 posts)
13. "indefinitely"
Mon Nov 28, 2016, 08:26 PM
Nov 2016

How the hell was this unhinged crackpot ever allowed into law enforcement in the first place? Has he ever heard of "due process"?

Wikipedia says he's in his fourth elected term as county sheriff, registered and elected as a Democrat in a heavily Democratic county. WTF? Did the Democrats in Milwaukee County assume he was okay just because he was black and claimed pretended to be a Democrat? Identity politics gone wild? Wow.

moriah

(8,311 posts)
19. Didn't see this before my OP, but still affirm I'm fully dedicated to Isis.
Mon Nov 28, 2016, 10:47 PM
Nov 2016

Daesh, no.

Isis, yes. She's a really cool Goddess.

tclambert

(11,087 posts)
20. Meanwhile, the rest of us want to go back to England.
Tue Nov 29, 2016, 02:19 PM
Nov 2016

Dear Queen Elizabeth the Deuce,

We, your former colonies in America, would like to come back. We realize now King George was right and George Washington was wrong. We just weren't ready to rule ourselves. Can we please, please come back? We'll pay for the tea.

Signed,

The American Colonies of Great Britain.

getagrip_already

(14,764 posts)
21. logistics alert....
Wed Nov 30, 2016, 10:01 AM
Nov 2016

That place can't hold 1 million prisoners. It can't even hold 10,000. It would be strained at 1000.

There is NO infrastructure for it. No power. No water. No Food. All they have is fresh air and sunshine (except when it rains). Everything else comes in on barges, which are limited.

The power on the island comes from Diesel generators and wind. There is no power supplied by Cuba, and none comes from any other island. Fresh water is at a premium, and any major use would mean importing it.

It is not manhattan, or even rykers island. You just can't put a major prison complex there. It won't work.

What would work is outsourcing it to a country that has lots of guards and no media. But we are talking about us citizens, unless they can strip citizenship.. Or maybe get a lease on a prison and call it us territory.

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