porn has been around for thousands of years and i doubt it`s going away.

and limiting the use of drones.

and go watch to your heart's content. No one is coming for your guns, your porn, your booze, or anything else (except pot, it seems-- unfortunately)

coming out against President Obama coming out against porn. It's already working, to a degree, on marijuana decriminalization.

Let's see the Repubs defend the use of teenage prostitutes!

From whom would he gain votes?

The ones watching the most are the ones complaint the most.

I didn't know he appeared in a movie!

download kiddy porn in Virginia and how they would lock those people up. Apparently they had them pinpointed and the plan was to move in and prosecute.

Anyway at least some of the right-wingers are using this as a political football.

Now, I am not in favor of banning regular porn, but I am just fine with prosecuting kiddy porn and trying to fight against that because as a child who was repeatedly raped, I think that stuff causes great harm and I don't want children going through what I went through.

particularly when criminal banksters are walking around freely. Not that it wouldn't be an equally massive waste of resources if the banksters were breaking rocks in Leavenworth. You see, there's the silly little thing called the First Amendment to the Constitution.

in a willful effort to avoid dealing with economics, civil liberties, environmental protection, energy development, or kicking the TeaPubliKlans in the ass.

I don't want to hear about walking and chewing gum either. There isn't approaching enough walking and too damn much Hubba Bubba.

The only group who it might help get votes from is married women, at the expense of socially libertarian men.

It's a very short-sighted form of "pragmatism" to do wrong because it might win some small demographic slice. (Of course, this idea would of course almost certainly lose votes.)

awesome.

And as a voter, I do not really want to know if a male politician gets "hard on porn."

Or should I say Willy?

This is a very slippery issue and needs to be handled very tenderly if you want people to open up to the idea.

i swear i only saw this part of your message subject at first:

Blowing your wad down people's throats is a bad idea.

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This is nothing more than a stupid non issue. Leave that up to the fucking pukes. We have enough things that are actually important that he needs to focus on.

I thought that read "Would we like to see Obama be harder in porn?"

I was like, did I miss a freakin' meeting?!

Sigh.

Where did this issue suddenly spring from anyway? Of all the things right now in this country . . .

One RadFem blog that is frequently going against the porn culture and industry is http://rageagainstthemanchine.com/ and another is http://antipornfeminists.wordpress.com/

Perhaps these will help us understand the objections from the left a little better.

since we're talking about ways to hand over an election to possibly the worst nominee in decades.

And if it accidently hits somebody then you've got a big mess on your hands... not to mention the person who got hit will be in a sticky situation too. Wait... what were we talking about again?

To me, porn is a non-issue. Jobs, getting out of the ME, etc. are way more important issues.

Obvious exceptions (child/rape porn) aside I don't want laws I want people to say, "Dude, that's not cool" and then the consumer to say, "Yeah, you're probably right."

Bazinga.

Even the Republicans don't have a unanimous stance on this issue, with a substantial number of Republicans taking the "I don't like it, but it ain't the governments business" attitude.


No government has the right to tell consenting adults what they can do with their bodies, and that includes their right to show their bodies to other consenting people. To me, attempts to ban consensual porn are just an extension of the same mindset that wants to ban everything from gay relationships to equal rights for women. It's a moralistic "we're going to infringe on your rights for the good of society" mindset that is, in my opinion, NEVER acceptable.

To really gain some votes he should adopt the full Christianist program. Surely a triangulating stroke of genius and a political winner! Hooray!

How about a nice little war? Who can we knock over cleanly by the convention? Syria's dubious, isn't there a Grenada out there to safely blow up?

It appears to have liberal appeal. Did you read the links?

Plus . . . another porn post.

These wouldn't be the first "liberals" to trample upon liberal ideals, or to pander like fools to a lowest common denominator, or to join in a push for more power for a decidedly illiberal police state.

How about we stop caring what has "appeal" to one or another artificial demographic category (as defined by public relations vultures) and start caring about right and wrong, freedom, rights, solidarity... you know, all that quaint democracy stuff.

And porn.

It's a good way to alienate our base as well as gain zero to very few RW/undecided votes.