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sheshe2

(84,057 posts)
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 10:02 PM Dec 2016

Why Men Oppress Women

Why Men Oppress Women
The psychology of male domination


Even if they belonged to higher social classes, most women throughout history have been enslaved by men. Until recent times, women throughout Europe, the Middle East and Asia were unable to have any influence over the political, religious or cultural lives of their societies. They couldn’t own property or inherit land and wealth, and were frequently treated as mere property themselves. In some countries they could be confiscated by money lenders or tax collectors to help settle debts; in ancient Assyria, the punishment for rape was the handing over of the rapist’s wife to the husband of his victim, to use as he desired. Most gruesomely of all, some cultures practised what anthropologists have called ritual widow murder (or ritual widow suicide), when women would be killed (or kill themselves) shortly after the deaths of their husbands. This was common throughout India and China until the twentieth century, and there are still occasional cases nowadays.

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In Europe and America (and some other countries) the status of women has risen significantly over the last few decades, but in many parts of the world male domination and oppression continues. In many Middle Eastern countries, for example, women effectively live as prisoners, unable to leave the house except under the guardianship of a male guardian. (There are many Saudi Arabian women who have only left their houses a handful of times in their whole lives.) And when — or if — they do go outside, they are obliged to cover themselves from head to toe in black, leaving them in danger of vitamin deficiency and dehydration. They have no role at all in determining their own lives; they are seen as nothing more than a commodity, property of the males of the family, and as owners, the men have the right to make decisions for them. Their male owners have the right to have sex with them on demand too. In Egypt, surveys have shown that the vast majority of men and women believe it is acceptable for a man to beat his wife if she refuses sex.

There have been attempts to explain the oppression of women in biological terms. For example, the sociologist Stephen Goldberg suggested that men are naturally more competitive than women because of their high level of testosterone. This makes them aggressive and power-hungry, so that they inevitably take over the high status positions in a society, leaving women to the more subordinate roles.

However, in my view the maltreatment of women has more deep-rooted psychological causes. In my book The Fall, I suggest that most human beings suffer from an underlying psychological disorder, which I call ‘humania.' The oppression of women is a symptom of this disorder. It’s one thing to take over the positions of power in a society, but another to seemingly despise women, and inflict so much brutality and degradation on them. What sane species would treat half of its members — and the very half which gives birth to the whole species — with such contempt and injustice? Despite their high level of testosterone, the men of many ancient and indigenous cultures revered women for their life-giving and nurturing role, so why don’t we?

Read More:https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/out-the-darkness/201208/why-men-oppress-women

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We have come a long way...not.

To clarify, this is NOT about all men.














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Why Men Oppress Women (Original Post) sheshe2 Dec 2016 OP
That's an interesting article - makes a lot of good points. el_bryanto Dec 2016 #1
Hi Bryant. sheshe2 Dec 2016 #3
Very interesting. smirkymonkey Dec 2016 #2
Women have been mistreated far longer than any other group throughout history. Buckeye_Democrat Dec 2016 #4
The Chalice and the Blade. mia Dec 2016 #5

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
1. That's an interesting article - makes a lot of good points.
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 10:06 PM
Dec 2016

That said - I am curious about one thing - do you have a sense that progress has been made over the last 50 years or is it more for show than actual progress? We are no where near were we should be as a society of course.

Sorry - I went back and reread the article - i should have looked it over twice before posting. I am curious as to your response but I latched on to one section without considering it in light of the others.

Bryant

sheshe2

(84,057 posts)
3. Hi Bryant.
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 10:34 PM
Dec 2016

Before this election, I would have responded yes to you, we have made some progress. Not much and not fast enough by far. The election results by the knuckle dragging Neanderthals dashed all my hopes by taking us back a hundred plus years. It proved to me how women are viewed by many men and sadly some women as well. We are not now or ever will be good enough. We birthed this nation yet are despised for that ability. Menstrual cycles were a joke from trump to try to demean a reporter. Breast feeding is dirty and disgusting and must be hidden from view. FFS! These are a natural part of life and bringing new ones into the world. It is not dirty or unclean. It is in fact beautiful. It is life.

Look at these powerful images of women breastfeeding...

Moms Break Down Breastfeeding Stigma With Ethereal Photos

“Breastfeeding is a natural thing, and it’s nothing to be ashamed of.”


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/moms-break-down-breastfeeding-stigma-with-ethereal-photos_us_5841a62ae4b09e21702e3f63


Since men feel the need to gain as much power and control as they can, they steal away power and control from women. They deny women the right to make decisions so that they can make them for them, leave women unable to direct their own lives so that they can direct their lives for them. Ultimately, they’re trying to increase their sense of significance and status, in an effort to offset the discontent and sense of lack created by humania.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,860 posts)
4. Women have been mistreated far longer than any other group throughout history.
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 10:35 PM
Dec 2016

I suspect much of it stemmed from men fearing they'd unknowingly support offspring from other men, and so they tried to control women to prevent it.

Not to mention how might equaled right more frequently in the past (although it still happens too often around the world today) and men tend to be stronger physically.

EDIT: And it sometimes happens now because old religious texts, written during a terrible time in history for women, are considered the words of God by some idiots.

mia

(8,363 posts)
5. The Chalice and the Blade.
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 11:44 PM
Dec 2016

Your post reminds me of a treasured book,The Clalice and the Blade, by Riane Eisler. I read it nearly 30 years ago and still have it on my bookshelf. Here's a recent video, inspired by the book:

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