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Recursion

(56,582 posts) Wed Dec 14, 2016, 11:17 PM Dec 2016

Fuck it. The NC coup is a declaration of war. Confirm Garland with a 34-vote quorum

This is some Weimar shit going on in NC, and it requires retaliation.

Biden can recognize the Senator from New York rather than the Senator from Kentucky when their session opens, before they swear in the new class.

At that moment, Democrats will have a majority.

I dismissed this as fanciful a week ago, but the North Carolina coup d'etat is a declaration of war.

34 Senators make a quorum, and the Democrats will have the majority at that point.

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Fuck it. The NC coup is a declaration of war. Confirm Garland with a 34-vote quorum (Original Post) Recursion Dec 2016 OP

I've seen this strategy posted before, but is our majority filibuster-proof? unblock Dec 2016 #1

It IS - some serious shit going down here. I hope DU makes this a focus for 2017. blm Dec 2016 #2

Sorry - This theory was nonsensical from the beginning FBaggins Dec 2016 #3

Post removed Post removed Dec 2016 #4

Don't much care FBaggins Dec 2016 #5

They say that "hope springs eternal". WillowTree Dec 2016 #6

I wouldn't count on that happening... PoliticAverse Dec 2016 #7

And Kaine as VP while they're at it. KamaAina Dec 2016 #8

Dont you need 51 people for a quorum Johnathan146 Dec 2016 #9

I agree with your larger point. Democrats need to start fighting back. yardwork Dec 2016 #10

There's nothing that limits the number of justices on the SC to 9. Calista241 Dec 2016 #11

unblock

(52,483 posts)

1. I've seen this strategy posted before, but is our majority filibuster-proof?

Reply to Recursion (Original post)

Wed Dec 14, 2016, 11:19 PM

Dec 2016

blm

(113,131 posts)

2. It IS - some serious shit going down here. I hope DU makes this a focus for 2017.

Reply to Recursion (Original post)

Wed Dec 14, 2016, 11:21 PM

Dec 2016

GOP made it a focus to undermine Obama and Dems in 2009 not just through obstruction, but by fighting like hell for every seat in the country that came up, especially Ted Kennedy's seat. It brushed the Dems back straight through to the 2010 election.

FBaggins

(26,783 posts)

3. Sorry - This theory was nonsensical from the beginning

Reply to Recursion (Original post)

Wed Dec 14, 2016, 11:38 PM

Dec 2016

There is no point in time when there are only 67 senators. The new term begins at noon just as the old term ends.

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FBaggins

(26,783 posts)

5. Don't much care

Reply to Post removed (Reply #4)

Wed Dec 14, 2016, 11:44 PM

Dec 2016

You're obviously immune to reality here... so why should your opinion bother me?

WillowTree

(5,325 posts)

6. They say that "hope springs eternal".

Reply to FBaggins (Reply #5)

Wed Dec 14, 2016, 11:51 PM

Dec 2016

I'm seeing quite a bit of evidence of that around here lately. Sigh.......

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)

7. I wouldn't count on that happening...

Reply to Recursion (Original post)

Thu Dec 15, 2016, 12:14 AM

Dec 2016

https://shugerblog.com/2016/12/08/can-the-senate-confirm-merrick-garland-or-hillary-clinton-on-jan-3d/

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)

8. And Kaine as VP while they're at it.

Reply to Recursion (Original post)

Thu Dec 15, 2016, 01:33 AM

Dec 2016

If the electors come through Monday, that is.

Johnathan146

(141 posts)

9. Dont you need 51 people for a quorum

Reply to Recursion (Original post)

Thu Dec 15, 2016, 08:15 AM

Dec 2016

If you tried that, wouldnt the Republicans just walk out.

yardwork

(61,753 posts)

10. I agree with your larger point. Democrats need to start fighting back.

Reply to Recursion (Original post)

Thu Dec 15, 2016, 08:25 AM

Dec 2016

It's becoming starkly clear that Republicans lie, cheat and steal and half of America cheers. Apparently, 50% of us - give or take the margin Hillary won the popular vote by - are willfully stupid morans who want abusive leaders. Half the country wants a dictator because apparently they're so scared of immigrants and black people (but apparently not the Russians anymore) they will sacrifice any freedom, any shred of decency, to put the Strong Man in power.

Democrats only hope is to show that we are ruthless too. Time to fight back in any and all possible ways. At this point what do we have to lose.

We'd pick up some moran votes.

Calista241

(5,586 posts)

11. There's nothing that limits the number of justices on the SC to 9.

Reply to Recursion (Original post)

Thu Dec 15, 2016, 09:34 AM

Dec 2016

Trump could theoretically appoint as many judges to the court as he wants, provided the Repubs in congress went along with it.

If we tried to appoint Garland like this and succeeded, I have no doubt the Repubs would see around this limitation of the court to 9 justices.

FDR tried to appoint more judges to the court when they ruled against several of his New Deal policies, but ultimately his party didn't back him.

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