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think

(11,641 posts)
Tue Dec 20, 2016, 02:06 PM Dec 2016

Gov. John Kasich signs bill blocking Cleveland's $15 minimum wage proposal

Gov. John Kasich signs bill blocking Cleveland's $15 minimum wage proposal

By Jeremy Pelzer, cleveland.com

on December 19, 2016 at 3:07 PM, updated December 19, 2016 at 6:31 PM


COLUMBUS, Ohio -- Ohio Gov. John Kasich on Monday signed legislation blocking next year's special election vote on whether to raise Cleveland's minimum wage to $15 per hour, according to his office.

Senate Bill 331 prohibits communities in the state from raising the minimum wage beyond the state's minimum wage rate, currently set at $8.10 per hour. State lawmakers passed the bill earlier this month at the request of Cleveland city officials and others, who sought to forestall a special election on the wage hike next May.

Raise Up Cleveland, the group sponsoring the proposal with the backing of the Service Employees International Union, had aimed to get a $15-per-hour minimum wage proposal on the Nov. 8 ballot. But Cleveland City Council held months of contentious hearings on the proposal, and the issue narrowly missed the ballot deadline, buying city officials and other opponents more time to try to quash the measure....

Read more:
http://www.cleveland.com/open/index.ssf/2016/12/gov_john_kasich_signs_bill_blo.html






Hopefully Ohioans will choose to bypass Kasich and the GOP with a ballot initiative in the next few years. A ballot initiative to raise the minimum wage to $10 failed to get the signatures necessary in 2016

Here is the organization and the other groups in the coalition behind the last effort to raise the mimimum wage:
http://ohorganizing.org/members-partners/

Here's the legal requirements to get an intitative on the ballot in Ohio:
http://www.ohioattorneygeneral.gov/Legal/Ballot-Initiatives/Initiative-and-Referendum-Signature-Requirements

Other states succeeded in 2016 to get a minimum wage increase passed through state ballot initiatives. Since Kasich is blocking cities from controlling their own destiny a state ballot initiative may be the best solution going forward.
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Gov. John Kasich signs bill blocking Cleveland's $15 minimum wage proposal (Original Post) think Dec 2016 OP
Yet they keep electing them... (*sigh*) Nictuku Dec 2016 #1
SlowHio's Sea of Tea is only growing. HughBeaumont Dec 2016 #10
Actually, the final vote tally gave Lorain County to Hillary. LeftinOH Dec 2016 #23
Sorry Ohio, but you asked for this still_one Dec 2016 #2
Cleveland and Cuyahoga County OH are reliably Democratic, LeftinOH Dec 2016 #24
I know it is. Ohio was also one of the states which instituted strict new photo ID requirements, still_one Dec 2016 #25
Try living in Delaware or Pennsylvania or Connecticut or New York yeoman6987 Dec 2016 #29
You are right. Pennsylvania is one of the worst still_one Dec 2016 #32
We finally got it in MA (aside from requesting an absentee ballot, of course-total PITA, that). MADem Jan 2017 #47
This says it all ... aggiesal Dec 2016 #36
For sure. nt oasis Dec 2016 #37
Yeah, The GOP doesn't like Sherman A1 Dec 2016 #3
Indeed... think Dec 2016 #6
GOP - The party of big gov't... Can't let the local people run their own lives keithbvadu2 Dec 2016 #40
Right? so much for Local Control instead of centralized power... Volaris Dec 2016 #44
And they love local control Loric Vilesilencer Dec 2016 #46
You get what you vote for working class Americans Yavin4 Dec 2016 #4
Welp, to the blue collar Ohioans who decided they would vote Republican... Sorceress Dec 2016 #5
To the Pain!!! Volaris Dec 2016 #45
And this was supposedly the reasonable Republican! hrmjustin Dec 2016 #7
This is the meta...doesn't Ohio need to go 88mph first? forgotmylogin Dec 2016 #8
I thought Republicans were in favor of local governmental control? gratuitous Dec 2016 #9
The city did not want to enact the proposal. former9thward Dec 2016 #19
But Kasich didn't even want the people to vote for themselves gratuitous Dec 2016 #20
Yes, but the city officials are Democrats. former9thward Dec 2016 #21
And yet, city officials didn't block the measure, Kasich and his legislative cronies did gratuitous Dec 2016 #22
Another post hoc ergo prompter hoc fallacy. LanternWaste Dec 2016 #31
Maybe you should read the article. former9thward Dec 2016 #33
Republicans are for local control...until it doesn't serve them hollowdweller Dec 2016 #11
They are also for less regulation awoke_in_2003 Dec 2016 #34
Why don't we hike the Federal minimum wage already? nt Quackers Dec 2016 #12
At this point, I expect a bill in Congress to LOWER the minimum wage Txbluedog Dec 2016 #30
I do, too. Seriously. nt MADem Jan 2017 #48
Because the rich don't want it raised awoke_in_2003 Dec 2016 #35
Republicans are planning to give lumps of coal to everyone this Holiday. Coyotl Dec 2016 #13
and yet lower class white fools think the repubs are their friends; oh, the ignorance. nt TheFrenchRazor Dec 2016 #14
But I thought the GOP was about helping people tenderfoot Dec 2016 #15
It just amazes me how stupid these GOP voters are. smirkymonkey Dec 2016 #16
And people thought Kasich was some kind of moderate DeminPennswoods Dec 2016 #17
Well, apparently that's what they voted for. Vinca Dec 2016 #18
Hopefully the people of Ohio will vote Kasich out still_one Dec 2016 #26
He is term-limited and will probably run against Sherrod Brown for Senate in 2018 Grey Lemercier Dec 2016 #38
Wow. They are really afraid that the Ilsa Dec 2016 #27
I expect to see the minimum wage abolished at the Federal Level Bettie Dec 2016 #28
Gotta love those big government conservatives. aidbo Dec 2016 #39
So much for small government Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 2016 #41
Effing loser judesedit Dec 2016 #42
In Ohio, we are all about local control ladym55 Dec 2016 #43

HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
10. SlowHio's Sea of Tea is only growing.
Tue Dec 20, 2016, 03:01 PM
Dec 2016

Hillary only won seven counties.

A few Obama counties flipped to Trump, including Lorain. Lorain NEVER votes Republican.

Unbelievable.

It's the white people - even if they make only slightly above minimum wage, that (in their eyes) makes them better than those that do.

LeftinOH

(5,359 posts)
24. Cleveland and Cuyahoga County OH are reliably Democratic,
Thu Dec 22, 2016, 10:18 AM
Dec 2016

and un-surprisingly went for Hillary. However, most of the rest of the state is firmly part of dumbf*ckistan. I live here (Cleveland), and to say that it's aggravating...is an understatement.

still_one

(92,502 posts)
25. I know it is. Ohio was also one of the states which instituted strict new photo ID requirements,
Thu Dec 22, 2016, 10:33 AM
Dec 2016

along with cutbacks to early voting, and registration restrictions.

I am from California, and we had elected schwarzenegger, so things happen




 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
29. Try living in Delaware or Pennsylvania or Connecticut or New York
Thu Dec 22, 2016, 11:21 AM
Dec 2016

Where you have zero early voting. States that have early voting are lucky. Most of the northeast states don't have it. I am especially surprised that they are blue states like Delaware. What's up with that?

MADem

(135,425 posts)
47. We finally got it in MA (aside from requesting an absentee ballot, of course-total PITA, that).
Mon Jan 2, 2017, 07:47 AM
Jan 2017

And it made all the difference.

I used to spend all day frantically ferrying people without cars/with mobility issues to the polls.

Stretched out over the course of several days, it was a piece of cake.

I hope those states get the spirit--it really does increase turnout and reduce the stress.

keithbvadu2

(37,040 posts)
40. GOP - The party of big gov't... Can't let the local people run their own lives
Sun Dec 25, 2016, 05:45 PM
Dec 2016

GOP - The party of big gov't... Can't let the local people run their own lives

Volaris

(10,278 posts)
44. Right? so much for Local Control instead of centralized power...
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 01:13 AM
Dec 2016

somebody tell me how this is different than a Federal MW that the States keep bitching about being oppressive tyranny? Oh thats right, because its only NOT opressive tyranny when the GOP gets to do it, no matter the governmental level.

Yavin4

(35,454 posts)
4. You get what you vote for working class Americans
Tue Dec 20, 2016, 02:11 PM
Dec 2016

For those scoring at home, this veto is not by some latte-sipping-liberal-elites.

forgotmylogin

(7,539 posts)
8. This is the meta...doesn't Ohio need to go 88mph first?
Tue Dec 20, 2016, 02:24 PM
Dec 2016

So now lawmakers can write bills that preemptively prevent bills that activate in the future?

I think we should retroactively repeal the Electoral College, and do it in the era when Democrats control the Senate and the House so it won't be blocked.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
9. I thought Republicans were in favor of local governmental control?
Tue Dec 20, 2016, 02:28 PM
Dec 2016

It seems kind of hypocritical for them to come riding in on Big State Government and stop a city from enacting its own laws to govern its own area. Doesn't that seem hypocritical?

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
20. But Kasich didn't even want the people to vote for themselves
Wed Dec 21, 2016, 12:26 PM
Dec 2016

So, local control is only good in Republican eyes when they control the locals.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
22. And yet, city officials didn't block the measure, Kasich and his legislative cronies did
Wed Dec 21, 2016, 12:43 PM
Dec 2016

I'll reserve blame for the actual actors.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
31. Another post hoc ergo prompter hoc fallacy.
Thu Dec 22, 2016, 11:37 AM
Dec 2016

Another post hoc ergo prompter hoc fallacy.

Bless your heart... I'd pretend local Democrats didn't want people to vote as well if it suited my bias; but goodness, if you're indeed going to advance that unsupported narrative, do try it a little more rationally.

 

hollowdweller

(4,229 posts)
11. Republicans are for local control...until it doesn't serve them
Tue Dec 20, 2016, 03:03 PM
Dec 2016

As long as it has to do with institutionalizing prejudice, or more guns, or something like that yeah....but raising wages....NO
 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
34. They are also for less regulation
Thu Dec 22, 2016, 01:12 PM
Dec 2016

except when it comes to vaginas and what people do in their bedroom.

 

Txbluedog

(1,128 posts)
30. At this point, I expect a bill in Congress to LOWER the minimum wage
Thu Dec 22, 2016, 11:34 AM
Dec 2016

You know they'll say that they need they to bring jobs back and spur the economy along with a massive tax cut to the 1%

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
35. Because the rich don't want it raised
Thu Dec 22, 2016, 01:25 PM
Dec 2016

and congress only does what their masters tell them to do. Of course, the bastards in congress get automatic pay raises. Oh, I know, they aren't all bought and paid for bastards- 90% give the rest a bad name.

tenderfoot

(8,438 posts)
15. But I thought the GOP was about helping people
Tue Dec 20, 2016, 05:34 PM
Dec 2016

Trump's a man of the people... that's what some people say...

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
16. It just amazes me how stupid these GOP voters are.
Tue Dec 20, 2016, 05:43 PM
Dec 2016

I don't understand how they ever got the idea that the GOP gave two shits about their economic well being. Well, I guess they'll start learning. It's just too bad that Democrats have to go down the tubes with them through no fault of their own.

 

Grey Lemercier

(1,429 posts)
38. He is term-limited and will probably run against Sherrod Brown for Senate in 2018
Fri Dec 23, 2016, 11:43 PM
Dec 2016

I unfortunately think he has a good, if not great chance of winning.

Ilsa

(61,712 posts)
27. Wow. They are really afraid that the
Thu Dec 22, 2016, 10:38 AM
Dec 2016

Best and Brightest will seek out the well-paying jobs and leave GOP-owner companies with the worst, causing them to raise wages to attract workers and talent.

Bettie

(16,145 posts)
28. I expect to see the minimum wage abolished at the Federal Level
Thu Dec 22, 2016, 10:43 AM
Dec 2016

with a rule that states and cities can not choose to mandate higher or any minimum wage.

Hope I'm wrong but that is what I see coming.

ladym55

(2,577 posts)
43. In Ohio, we are all about local control
Wed Dec 28, 2016, 01:22 PM
Dec 2016

Except when we're not. Always look at what benefits the wealthy wingnuts to see how government should work.

We also want to avoid too much regulation (especially when it comes to freedom to carry guns into places like day care centers) except when it involves a woman's lady bits (then we regulate and regulate and regulate).

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