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TheMastersNemesis

(10,602 posts)
Thu Dec 22, 2016, 02:28 PM Dec 2016

GOP RW Meme - You Don't Get Health Care You Cannot Pay For Period.

The bottom line is you get sick you die unless you have the money for treatment. Carl Higbie founder of George Washington Leadership Foundation pretty much maintained that position with Thom Hartmann. He also believes the Veterans Health Care system should be abolished because it is too socialist. That you should not be required to pay for anyone else health care.

His position is that even food, shelter and clothing are NOT a right and that they are a privilege. The GOP represents the extreme position that the government should not provide anything to the citizens except homeland security and the military. So everything else must be covered by charity or the churches. THEY ARE DETERMINED IN THAT VIEW.

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GOP RW Meme - You Don't Get Health Care You Cannot Pay For Period. (Original Post) TheMastersNemesis Dec 2016 OP
Repug bastards are going all-in with their Ayn Rand/libertarian heartlessness brush Dec 2016 #1
They Are. TheMastersNemesis Dec 2016 #2
They won't care... Else You Are Mad Dec 2016 #4
Any idea how we're going to counter that Proud Liberal Dem Dec 2016 #6
I don't think it is possible to counter it. Else You Are Mad Dec 2016 #8
Right Proud Liberal Dem Dec 2016 #9
With him not realzing he had already been hopelessly indoctrinated with right wing lies brush Dec 2016 #10
The most important part of propagandizing people... Wounded Bear Dec 2016 #12
You'll have to do something you don't want to do gratuitous Dec 2016 #19
And you're a cruel and heartless person Proud Liberal Dem Dec 2016 #21
Because they think that killing off social programs will only affect Blacks and Hispanics Yavin4 Dec 2016 #14
Even the ones... Else You Are Mad Dec 2016 #15
True that. Look at Obamacare. Yavin4 Dec 2016 #22
And a lot of Republicans are going to die C_U_L8R Dec 2016 #3
Reason #56784859398849390203 Conservatism needs to be in the trash heap of history. JHan Dec 2016 #5
Guess it's time to move the family to Costa Rica. Crunchy Frog Dec 2016 #7
"In a real Fourth Reich, you'll be the first to go" - Jello Biafra. HughBeaumont Dec 2016 #11
Glad to see they've stayed in the 19th century. Wounded Bear Dec 2016 #13
"To Promote The General Welfare" ProfessorGAC Dec 2016 #16
I had to turn it off when he came on. GoCubsGo Dec 2016 #17
Here is their health care plan Ohioblue22 Dec 2016 #18
That's evil treestar Dec 2016 #20

brush

(53,963 posts)
1. Repug bastards are going all-in with their Ayn Rand/libertarian heartlessness
Thu Dec 22, 2016, 02:33 PM
Dec 2016

Hope their voters are happy.

Else You Are Mad

(3,040 posts)
4. They won't care...
Thu Dec 22, 2016, 02:41 PM
Dec 2016

When they lose their Healthcare, social security, medicare, Medicaid, etc. They will just blame Obama for it and that will be that. I have a feeling that Obama will be the conservative scapegoat for at least the next eight years.

Else You Are Mad

(3,040 posts)
8. I don't think it is possible to counter it.
Thu Dec 22, 2016, 02:51 PM
Dec 2016

Ever since the right wing radio, 'news' sites and Fox has brainwashed conservatives
into thinking that anyone that disagrees with their world view must be a liberal liar, it is near impossible to counter it.

For example, over Thanksgiving I was talking with a tea party uncle about how obamacare and/or socialized medicine is actually helpful. He admitted to me that while I may know much more about the subject than he does, I am a liberal so I am trying to indoctrinate him with propaganda. That's when I realized some people are just not going to change.

Wounded Bear

(58,765 posts)
12. The most important part of propagandizing people...
Thu Dec 22, 2016, 03:02 PM
Dec 2016

is convincing them that all other points of view are propaganda, and thus illegitimate.

That's the basis of the whole "can't trust the gov't or the Liberal Media" bullshit line.

Like Trump said, "I'm the only one who can fix it."

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
19. You'll have to do something you don't want to do
Thu Dec 22, 2016, 03:40 PM
Dec 2016

That is, repeat yourself. Say it over and over, even when shocked conservatives ask with dismay if you're talking about them when you say, "Repealing the Affordable Care Act will be a cruel and heartless measure that will result in unnecessary suffering for millions and wholly preventable death for thousands." Say it every day. Say it even when you think everyone's "got it." Say it one more time. Say it when you're sick of hearing it.

Because Fox and the howler monkey brigades never tire of repeating their falsehoods, even after they've been thoroughly debunked. You'll think some issue has finally been laid to rest, and then suddenly you'll hear someone mention "trickle down" or something equally stupid with approval.

Keep saying it: The Republican health care plan is cruel and heartless. If you support it, you are a cruel and heartless person.

Yavin4

(35,453 posts)
14. Because they think that killing off social programs will only affect Blacks and Hispanics
Thu Dec 22, 2016, 03:09 PM
Dec 2016

not White people.

Else You Are Mad

(3,040 posts)
15. Even the ones...
Thu Dec 22, 2016, 03:12 PM
Dec 2016

That are on welfare and/or food stamps themselves don't realize they will be hurt as well. There is a larger number of poor, white conservatives in the South on social welfare programs than Blacks and Hispanics.

Yavin4

(35,453 posts)
22. True that. Look at Obamacare.
Thu Dec 22, 2016, 10:06 PM
Dec 2016

That program benefits the White working class more than anyone else, but they want to repeal it because Black people also benefit.

C_U_L8R

(45,031 posts)
3. And a lot of Republicans are going to die
Thu Dec 22, 2016, 02:40 PM
Dec 2016

...too bad their too freakin' stupid to figure that one out. USA USA !!

HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
11. "In a real Fourth Reich, you'll be the first to go" - Jello Biafra.
Thu Dec 22, 2016, 02:59 PM
Dec 2016

Not only are they selecting which states should be worthy of consideration, but the RepubliCONs are now deciding which people are worthy. Glad to see they've stayed in the 20th century.

ProfessorGAC

(65,334 posts)
16. "To Promote The General Welfare"
Thu Dec 22, 2016, 03:19 PM
Dec 2016

It's in the Constitution twice. Not once, twice. What part of promote the general welfare do they not understand.

GoCubsGo

(32,099 posts)
17. I had to turn it off when he came on.
Thu Dec 22, 2016, 03:26 PM
Dec 2016

So, those whose fortune in life doesn't allow them to afford medical care when they get sick or injured should just drop dead? "I got mine. Screw you." What a sad, pathetic excuse for a human being.

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