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yagotme

(3,000 posts)
1. "If it bleeds, it leads".
Fri Dec 23, 2016, 10:57 PM
Dec 2016

Have to be the first to print that story, right or wrong, just to say "We're the first." Got to have that advertising dollar.

 

Johnathan146

(141 posts)
3. It guarentees the right to a free press
Fri Dec 23, 2016, 11:27 PM
Dec 2016

It doesn't mandate it. Of course newspapers and tv stations are profit driven. They might not run a negative story one of the major advertisers. There are blogs an other independent journalist.

What is your solution?

Igel

(35,383 posts)
6. Which is to say, free of government interference and regulation.
Fri Dec 23, 2016, 11:44 PM
Dec 2016

Many want it to be without cost to them, or make the presses free from their owners (and presumably subject to what others want).

Don't like the press that is, aim for the press that should be: Start your own. Never easier with the advent of photocopiers and the Internet.

 

HoneyBadger

(2,297 posts)
5. Aren't paid journalists generally biased?
Fri Dec 23, 2016, 11:31 PM
Dec 2016

I would think that you need to pay them out of some sort of blind trust system to really ensure integrity.

Or they have to be super wealthy. There is the Silicon Valley goal of making eff you money. At a certain threshold, you are beholden to no one and free to act on your conscience.

X_Digger

(18,585 posts)
7. If I have to pay for a paper, it's not a free press! (hint: 'free' does not equal 'free' or 'free')
Fri Dec 23, 2016, 11:53 PM
Dec 2016

A Free Press generally refers to free from interference from the govt.

Here's a free (as in beer) clue: There's nothing unconstitutional about making profit in the press industry.

Now, if your idea is some 'stipend' for journalists to 'unencumber' them, then yeah, you've got a problem. Because that stupid shit would be exactly what the 1st amendment was meant to prevent-- the state interfering with the press.

 

Johnathan146

(141 posts)
8. Agreed
Sat Dec 24, 2016, 12:21 AM
Dec 2016

And if you take away the profit, you take away resources to investigate.

The media might consider certain subjects off limits, but they can spend tens of thousands on a major investigation.

Some guy and his blog might investigate everything, but might only have a budget of a few hundred bucks.

 

LaydeeBug

(10,291 posts)
9. And my point is that since corporations are running the government (revolving door much)
Sat Dec 24, 2016, 12:44 AM
Dec 2016

it isn't *free* anymore. And, yes, I am aware of "free" and "free". My context is correct.

JudyM

(29,294 posts)
10. Interesting topic. Franklin had nothing like the present situation in mind. He thought it'd offer
Sat Dec 24, 2016, 11:24 AM
Dec 2016

a level of protection. It's as if there's a hole in our entire system of government. Particularly since Limbaugh and faux news... there's no way for people who bathe in that gunk to see the truth (as we know it to be), so they don't vote on the basis of what's best for us -or even themselves.

What's that website someone posted about earlier this week that's getting off the ground to be a bipartisan source of news/fact checking?...

JudyM

(29,294 posts)
13. I just spent 10 minutes looking for it again, couldn't find it, sorry. It'll probably be referenced
Sat Dec 24, 2016, 12:20 PM
Dec 2016

again once it gets up and running.

libtodeath

(2,888 posts)
12. Facts and truth have a liberal bias so we dont need to endlessly be reassured like the pukes do.
Sat Dec 24, 2016, 11:34 AM
Dec 2016

That is why they prop up hate radio and provide the money to the print media in exchange for them normalizing their lies.

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