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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTap-dancing around the obvious.
The guy is mentally unstable. He is dangerous.
We cannot continue to pretend otherwise.
Just because the electoral college voted for him does not make him any less dangerous.
We cannot agree with their decision and that we have no choice but to march off the cliff.
We have to resist. We cannot accept "ego" or "unconventional" as an excuse to do nothing.
President Trump must not be allowed to destroy our nation.
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,224 posts)Ptah
(33,048 posts)Thanks!
It's early.
LaydeeBug
(10,291 posts)Also, conspicuously absent from the OP is that he is the puppet of a hostile foreign nation. That nation committed an Act of WAR against the United States and the GOP welcomed it.
classykaren
(769 posts)Horse with no Name
(33,958 posts)republicans initial plan was to start impeachment on January 22 and install pence to carry out their agenda.
But then.....the hacked RNC (and God knows what they uncovered) and the veiled threats from putin to the "Democrats"....which I almost perceive as warnings which will keep the republicans from impeachment.
Nothing happens by accident.
putin is trump's firewall.
I used to think he would be impeached.
However, I have no doubt that he won't.
mountain grammy
(26,663 posts)Russia is threatening republicans in the United States government, and they're backing down.
hay rick
(7,650 posts)The Republicans will do nothing because they lack character. That is the single attribute needed to be a Republican politician in the first place- the ability to sign on to a plutocratic program without regard to all evidence that those policies will harm far more people than they help. Looking the other way while Trump betrays us is easy-peasy after you've reached the bottom of that slippery slope.
Blanks
(4,835 posts)The movie with Tom Cruise. The wealthy have something on them, and they (republicans in congress) don't have the intestinal fortitude to come forward.
Once one of them does, and the ugly is released on them, others won't be so intimidated.
That's my theory.
mopinko
(70,282 posts)lordie knows dirt is not hard to find on these cons.
Horse with no Name
(33,958 posts)when they most assuredly were.
That's okay.
Their secrets are safe with putin. Our country, however, is a different story.
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)I don't understand. It's obvious that it did happen and that pukes in all levels and all places conducted cheating.
safeinOhio
(32,738 posts)or they would face the wrath of teabags.
Plan; CIA and FBI will charge him with treason and they will hang him.
Something along those lines.
Nay
(12,051 posts)problem of utter crazies in the White House. I don't see a solution, frankly.
DK504
(3,847 posts)Problem is Pence will step in and then someone like Ryan as VP. While all this is going on they will begin proceeding to dismantle all government insurance WE have paid for.
I want to throw up.😱
karmaqueen
(714 posts)classykaren
(769 posts)mahina
(17,726 posts)Lots of resources including the 198 Methods of Nonviolent Resistance. Free on the Albert Einstein Institution page. He was a peace studies prof here at UH Manoa and wrote some very useful and practical instructions for this kind of situation.
http://www.aeinstein.org
The Albert Einstein Institution works to advance the worldwide study and strategic use of nonviolent action. Our work on this topic has been translated into dozens of languages. Visit our online library to access all currently available digital resources.
http://www.aeinstein.org/free-resources/free-publications/english/
The Anti-Coup: http://www.aeinstein.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/TAC-1.pdf
I can't copy the text because it's a pdf but this is a valuable resource. Good luck to all of us.
kentuck
(111,110 posts)Good info.
We are definitely in the midst of a coup. It's unusual the way it came about, by the democratic process, but it is a coup nonetheless.
classykaren
(769 posts)request for their training classes.
Say have you seen the documentary A Force More Powerful?
Nevernose
(13,081 posts)So thanks for the links!
(I have been reading up on nonviolence recently anyway, for obvious reasons)
mahina
(17,726 posts)Shows how nonviolence huli'd the regimes of such brutal regimes as
Pinochet in Chile
Nazis in Denmark
Ghandi's India under colonizer Britain
The Soviet Union's failure to prevail against Polish labor organizers' Solidarity
South Africa's Apartheid fell to Nelson Mandela's nonviolent resistance with world wide withdrawal of support
It is a great documentary
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)I wish there was something that would change the short game.
FailureToCommunicate
(14,027 posts)Nothing is set in stone till Janurary 20th.
OR... Maybe some help from these folks?
33taw
(2,448 posts)Jim Beard
(2,535 posts)and let him spend some time in a jail cell.
tblue37
(65,502 posts)Alzheimer's driven senile dementia, which his father was hit with at around the same age. The Republican bosses are comfortable with having a president with obvious mental limitations, because they feel certain they can control him--or remove him and replace him with the more cooperative VP. They are probably right about that.
But the willingness of one of our major parties--the one with the most power!--to put an obviously mentally unfit individual into the highest and arguably most powerful office just to grab more power for themselves says a lot about them, none of it good.
And they did so not just twice, but probably THREE times.
I think that W also suffered from cognitive damage from his decades of alcoholism (and probably drug use, as well). If you watch videos of him when he first ran for governor in Texas, you can see that his cognitive and linguistic functioning had seriously deteriorated by the time he was installed in the WH, and the video of him dancing inappropriately to the "Battle Hymn of the Republic" at a solemn memorial service, his childish behavior being calmed and catered to by an obviously concerned and sympathetic Michelle Obama, shows that his decline has continued to progress (and that he is probably still exacerbating his condition by continuing to drink).
ananda
(28,890 posts).. in our collective psyche.
In a world where people are divided, this is the only
conclusion.
And believe, as long as we remain divided, Trump
will do nothing but gain strength.
This has to do with the way sociopaths gain power
and have power handed to them.
This country has mostly elected sociopaths because
they will literally do anything to get power -- lie, cheat,
steal, kill, and backstab.
This represents exactly the way that America has completely
lost its moral compass.
I think resistance and division just keep this process in play
because the non-sociopaths have been conned and played,
and at the same time playing their part in perpetuating this
trend to its only logical conclusion -- destruction and extinction.
barbtries
(28,816 posts)if not resist?
phylny
(8,392 posts)He can't hide from or back out of it, and he can't wing it.
Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)Imagine this babbling baboon going on about what a grand president they have.
dhill926
(16,377 posts)walking out. Won't happen, but it's fun to fantasize about...
Retrograde
(10,170 posts)The practice of addressing both houses of Congress was started, IIRC, by Wilson. Before that, a written report was customary.
So Trump can just twitter that the State of the Union is Yuuuge!!! America is great again!!!!!
SunSeeker
(51,771 posts)This time it would be a correct statement
livetohike
(22,165 posts)of Congress. He'll talk about how mean so and so was to him. It will be all about him.
Different Drummer
(7,661 posts)Not a pleasant thought. It will be a disaster. He can't read and when he goes off-script, he babbles like an imbecile.
barbtries
(28,816 posts)i find myself having to say this over and over in conversation. the man is seriously ill. he is sick. the implications of such a sick man being president are grave and possibly beyond anything we can imagine. anyone can see that he is sick, he is an infantile narcissist, but they do tap dance around it. people who support him actively ignore it and the media treat it as entertainment.
This is why the near constant dread. To feel normal i just must step away and force myself to think about other things. there's nothing else i can do or i might just start screaming. we need to stay well if we can to resist this sick, sick man and his sick, sick plan. which i still haven't figured out the end game. money, for sure, but is he also determined to incite a world war? annihilate the planet?
sometimes i theorize that it's just to get back at all of us sane people who have refused to join his cult.
classof56
(5,376 posts)I too live with a sense of dread--heartsick and frightened. Plus very, very fearful. When I contemplate next year, my mind shuts down sometime around April or so. Resistance is necessary for our survival. It's that simple.
Stay strong and peace.
barbtries
(28,816 posts)and to us all.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,926 posts)as to why a sophisticated, educated first-world country like Germany could be taken over and persuaded by the likes of Hitler. Now I'm starting to get it.
Guilded Lilly
(5,591 posts)the second and third tier can control them and actually run the country. The Cheney Effect.
Republicans have had decades of practice doing this.
Treacherous.
Treasonous.
By serious, calculated design.
pansypoo53219
(21,005 posts)he needs to be spanked.
world wide wally
(21,758 posts)I have one statement about the OP and one suggestion about where to begin.
First of all, don't even think for a minute that Electoral College voters are any more qualified to make a decision than your local exterminator. They are just local activists (and usually of the most fervent breed) who want to seem important. So fuck them too.
One suggestion I have on how to proceed is for democratic lawmakers to introduce legislation (even if it never even makes it to the floor) aimed at Trumps most glaring vulnerabilities. Perhaps one requiring all future presidential candidates to undergo a psychological test when filing their candidacy. Requiring they make public both physical and mental health records. A full disclosure of their income tax forms. Some brave soul may even file charges of treason or collusion with a foreign power.
It is not important that any of these things succeed, just that they are discussed on a national scale. Some Americans will get the message.
Nothing will grow without planting seeds. We have a lot of seeds to plant.
barbtries
(28,816 posts)will you run for office?
Liberty Belle
(9,538 posts)of all presidential candidates to get on ballots in their states.
Perhaps they should also require a mental fitness test.
Whether a court would uphold this as states rights or not remains to be seen.
LiberalLovinLug
(14,178 posts)We should steal that from them. And use it to rub their deplorable faces in it.
randr
(12,418 posts)Trump voters are as unqualified to vote as he is to govern.
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)lambchopp59
(2,809 posts)Mentioning either elimination of electoral college nonsense or just rectifying the gerrymandering that has obviously gone so slanted that 2.8 million voices are silenced...
I get told that can't be done. Why the fluck not?
fleabiscuit
(4,542 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)it has to start somewhere. The constitution has been amended before.
LaydeeBug
(10,291 posts)BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)What? Cuz I'll do it. Just tell me what it is.
fleabiscuit
(4,542 posts)We are all at different stages of life and capabilities. Becoming aware is a start.
Read Al Giordano
https://twitter.com/AlGiordano
Might look at this:
https://twitter.com/AlGiordano/status/806264321646952452
Id suggest you scroll down Al's Twitter feed all the way to Dec 6 #1 and read all the way back to the top.
Find new people:
Summer Brennan ?@summerbrennan
Trump/Putin wanted to make sure we were afraid of nuclear war on Christmas.Trump is psychological warfare. #resist
https://twitter.com/summerbrennan/status/812889791188463617
Discover new outlets:
https://www.thefourfiftyone.com
listen to the podcast,
https://soundcloud.com/user-50760067
We were caught flat footed. We are just getting going. Dont despair.
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)It's not gonna be easy for me to get off my inert ass and join a group of IRL people!! Eeek.
fleabiscuit
(4,542 posts)But we may find ourselves going to a city council meeting and sniveling loudly. Or a school board. We will find our way.
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)How's that sound?
jimlup
(7,968 posts)exactly what I am thinking. I'm worried that he is capable of destroying even more than just "our nation".