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Locut0s

(6,154 posts)
Sun Dec 25, 2016, 10:00 PM Dec 2016

Feeling scared, depressed, for a bit after wandering into Republican echo chamber...

We desperately need to heal the divide between left and right if we are to stave off disaster. Polarization on this level is tribalism and is going to lead to civil war. And I don't just mean in the US. I am willing to admit that we here on the left are in our own liberal echo chamber and don't want to wander out of it. It's cozy here with others sharing our views and beliefs. I agree I have come to hate the opposition to a scary degree. But I don't know what to do but hate as so much of what the GOP echo chamber amplifies is violence, xenophobia, aggression, might makes right.

I was just on what was formally a small liberal Facebook anti trump group which was invaded by a group of Trump supporters. So I started to click through the Facebook feeds of the various Trump supporters posting there and even for just a few mins I came away feeling sick. The unifying messages that most seemed to show on their profiles revolved around violent nationalism, aggressive blind patriotism, one person had a picture of him wearing the American flag while he stood on an Arab flag, it looked to be the old flag of Iraq. Various others were friends with many others showing Facebook shots of themselves decked in military regalia showing off their gun collections. Many had angry public posts against liberals etc etc etc...

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Crunchy Frog

(26,714 posts)
1. I'm afraid that this is our nation's future, and it's been building up to this for a long time.
Sun Dec 25, 2016, 10:04 PM
Dec 2016

I can only envy you that you're in Canada.

Locut0s

(6,154 posts)
6. Indeed I've never been so glad to be Canadian. But I still fear...
Mon Dec 26, 2016, 02:12 AM
Dec 2016

Post globalization the world has never been so interconnected. Your disaster can very easily be our disaster. And that's just speaking economically and in terms of the environment. There are many other spill over effects I worry about too. Canada and the US are so culturally close that much of what happens to the south has a bleed over effect up here. The increase in gun related crimes and mass shootings over the years has leaked northwards for example. We have nothing like the gun culture you have but it's become more of an issue with time. Similarly we have our own right wing wingnuts up here. Steven Harper was in power here for a good part of a decade and did a lot of damage to our social safety nets. We still of course have maintained most of the structures that are vital but much erosion has taken place. The right wing up here take their ques from what happens south of the border. Already there are rumblings here of a famous prominent TV right wing populist running for the conservative party. You guys may know of him too, a guy by the name of Kevin O'Leary, he was a prominent member of Dragon's Den, I believe Shark Tank in the US? Famous for being an ass hole on TV. I could see him winning post Trump.

LonePirate

(13,441 posts)
2. Fox News, talk radio and religious pulpits have created all of this divisiveness in America.
Sun Dec 25, 2016, 10:08 PM
Dec 2016

I have no idea how to resolve our current situation. I'm not sure if a solution is even possible as it seems like the 2010s in America have now become the 1850s in America.

karmaqueen

(714 posts)
5. You are so right!
Sun Dec 25, 2016, 10:28 PM
Dec 2016

People who do not listen do not realize what power those brainwashing personalities on the right have. I honestly think that if instructions went out to silence the left a good many would try and carry out the order. I listen all the time and some of the preachers are the worst. My husband & I listened to one on the radio about a week before the election that was repeating the lies about Hillary and the sex ring and it was so gruesome we were sick. Even the ones that come on after local news are ridiculous. That jack Van Impe and his wife are so biased and they repeat so many lies but it is a reputable tv station and people believe. How can one fight back against lies from the mouth of a person using God to brainwash?

elleng

(131,372 posts)
3. AWFUL that so many have failed to understand what's been aggravating so many for so long,
Sun Dec 25, 2016, 10:12 PM
Dec 2016

especially so-called 'progressives' and 'liberals.' It really has been in front of our faces.

A 'few' have recognized the problems, but too many of 'us,' and others, fail and refuse to do so.

I'm scared too, Locut0s, and I haven't gone inquiring as you have.

J_William_Ryan

(1,761 posts)
4. This is the consequence of minority rule
Sun Dec 25, 2016, 10:14 PM
Dec 2016

and an aberration of our republican form of government, made worse by conservatives’ contempt for the rule of law.

Needless to say, these rightwing miscreants are not representative of the majority of the American people.

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