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Maxine Waters: A Problem With Democrats Is That Were Too Nice to Other Side
by Josh Feldman | 6:42 pm, December 26th, 2016
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Congresswoman Maxine Waters said on MSNBC today that one of the problems her party has is that they tend to be too nice.
She told Jacob Soboroff, That has been a problem in my party, that when were in power were nice. We bend over backwards to work with people. Trump has stepped over everybody.
Waters was responding to Democrats already expressing a willingness to try and work with President-elect Donald Trump, saying, I have no intention of pretending everythings all right.
She even said she wouldnt even bother sitting down with Trump because she just doesnt trust him.
http://www.mediaite.com/online/maxine-waters-a-problem-with-democrats-is-that-were-too-nice-to-other-side/
pangaia
(24,324 posts)Too bad it took the election of a fascist to finally motivate them to kick ass/obstruct the same way rethuglicans do.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)RiverStone
(7,228 posts)Sure miss Paul Wellstone!!!
brooklynboy49
(287 posts)Our #1 priorities should be to obstruct, obstruct, obstruct and make Trumpf a half-term president.
SaschaHM
(2,897 posts)If Trump can't pass his agenda with 100% of them, Dems should let it die. We shouldn't be in the business of rescuing legislation that his own party won't pass.
After the shit the rs pulled the last 8 years?
All it takes is one soft headed D voting for whatever crazy ass shit they come up with and they run away from it with "well, Ds voted for it, too!"
That is their defecto IWR comeback.
Make them OWN their shit
LaydeeBug
(10,291 posts)milestogo
(16,829 posts)demosincebirth
(12,551 posts)TNNurse
(6,931 posts)Do we have to learn to cheat and lie and say horrible things about people? Can we do it?
JoeOtterbein
(7,703 posts)truebluegreen
(9,033 posts)to bring a spork to a gun fight...again. One is tempted to think they don't actually want to win.
JoeOtterbein
(7,703 posts)truebluegreen
(9,033 posts)Va Lefty
(6,252 posts)Vinca
(50,326 posts)NWCorona
(8,541 posts)backscatter712
(26,355 posts)You don't win in politics with nice.
wordpix
(18,652 posts)that means blocking every bill brought before the Senate.
Lucky Luciano
(11,267 posts)So it is more than blocking for blocking sake.
msongs
(67,496 posts)better to go down swinging than get in the box cars
Maraya1969
(22,509 posts)I've suggested some things that might not be so kosher and so many people get their panties in a bunch saying, "That's not allowed!!!" Meanwhile we are in a fight with a group that blatantly break rules just because they can . And of course they get away with it because Democrats just sit there and do nothing.
You can only be a doormat is you lie down and be a doormat.
When are Democrats going to fight fire with fire?
And, what I want to know is, why hasn't anything of Trump's or the RNC's been hacked and leaked? That would stop them from hacking us but is it because it is "against the law" Fuck the law man, we were beat up and spit out by the Russian hackers and no on proposes to do anything back to them.
And don't try and tell me we don't have the ability because we do.
Even this thing with Tom Arnold pisses me off. He is scared but why aren't people offering him ways to protect himself and what about the other people who know what he knows? Grow some balls!
Why isn't what he knows hacked and leaked so no one has to take responsibility for it?
That is they way the Russians do it!
Feeling the Bern
(3,839 posts)"We lost, but at least we were polite and respectful." FUCK THAT NOISE!!!
It's time to use their shit against them. No mercy, no quarter. And no let up.
I know their playbook and I know how to use it against them.
Their playbook is the following:
1: Lie, then lie about lying -- just keep hitting with facts until:
2: Call you the typical angry liberal -- now it's insult time: Call the typical brain dead asshole conservatard and then you get:
3: Tell you "I know liberals where supposed to be tolerant." -- them the you are intolerant to nazis, sexists, racists, etc, until:
4: They say they aren't a nazi/sexist/racist/bigot -- tell them they voted for one and that's all you need.
And if their lackeys in the media like Fuckie Toad, Wolf the Douche, or anyone at Fox News tries to put their passive aggressive whining, nail them with their shit too.
Hit hard, hit repeatedly, hit with force and don't stop hitting until there is nothing left of the body.
Hit below the belt. Hit from behind! Time to show them the same respect they show us.
Usually now, they are drooling on themselves. Keep hitting them. Call them anti-American and give a list of reasons way.
Call them America hating and give them a list of reasons way.
Tell them to leave the country if they hate it here so much. Give them a list of libertarian, socially conservative places that are Christian theocracies: Uganda could be good.
Accuse them of being invaders and that they support the murder of native Americans.
FUCK, use their fucking playbook again them! It isn't hard!
bdamomma
(63,960 posts)Maxine Waters doesn't trust him I can agree with that!!!
Yes stop playing nice. Also I would love to see McConnell get his balls crushed too.
Jim Beard
(2,535 posts)confronted. It will fire us and our leaders up.
wiggs
(7,820 posts)source of most of their economic and foreign policy problems...
Hillary didn't rip the gop because she wanted crossover republican votes....could have honestly talked about the gop record instead and in hindsight might have done something.
LiberalFighter
(51,299 posts)Bettie
(16,145 posts)Why work with people who have proven again and again that they can and will not work with others. That the only compromise they will accept is complete capitulation.
Now, if only others in congress would take this tack.
You'd think that after however many years, Charlie Brown would realize that Lucy will always pull the football away.
Fast Walker 52
(7,723 posts)tavernier
(12,415 posts)I'm hoping for a Lyndon Johnson to emerge...
Dave in VA
(2,041 posts)Newt Gingrich years ago said that liberals were afraid of seeing blood. They would never be able to turn the knife and make the kill and that is why they will ultimately lose.
Think he may be on to something?
Wish they would fight like it was their own lives on the line for a change!
Flatpicker
(894 posts)But I think that the Dems play nice because they see themselves as part of the system.
They want that sweet corporate money as much as the R's.
You can't make meaningful change if you are looking for funding from the same group of donors as your opponent.
colsohlibgal
(5,275 posts)Why have we not been screaming bloody murder about CrossCheck? About other election shenanigans? We saw the playbook 16 years ago with tragic consequences.
Now we have a dangerous fraud about to be sworn in.
Stinky The Clown
(67,838 posts)TonyPDX
(962 posts)JoeOtterbein
(7,703 posts)DO IT!
Roland99
(53,342 posts)C Moon
(12,226 posts)YOHABLO
(7,358 posts)raging moderate
(4,317 posts)She is one lady who has a right to be fed up.
Crunchy Frog
(26,709 posts)I'm glad Maxine Waters seems to have gotten it. I'm not holding my breath for the party as a whole.
Kind of reminds me of this.
Tarheel_Dem
(31,257 posts)the Trump administration. I think they are both in a sticky situation, especially considering the midterms. I hope I'm wrong, but we have to come to grips with the fact that the GOP controls it all, and the rules changes in the Senate make it damn near impossible for Dems to stop anything.
Cha
(298,019 posts)Mahalo, Maxine!
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)LaydeeBug
(10,291 posts)John Kerry in 2004 would NEVER get my vote now. Ken Blackwell, I'm looking at you motherfucker.
I want a fucking partisan assed fighter. I want Dean. And Ted Kennedy rolled into a frothy fighting machine.
I am sick of writing 'strongly worded letters' or applauding the so called leaders whose idea of fighting back is the same.
I am sick of bringing a knife to a gun fight.
Fuck these motherfuckers.
ProfessorGAC
(65,381 posts)Finally seeing the light that playing nice with bullies gets us nowhere, perhaps?
DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)this is what we need to do, because any nice gestures are only considered submission, which is what they want.
pressbox69
(2,252 posts)Generator
(7,770 posts)guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)One party believes in a multi-party democracy. The GOP does not.