I think she's a shill. Kelly could be good. She's smart and has something to say. Carlson could go either way.

CARLSON? He's less than useless.

She too is useless. Gawker used to have a writer that would call her hilarious names such as "Recently, lemon-scented floor mop Gretchen Carlson invited ...". They were numerous and funny.

Sadly she is apparently very smart but plays dumb. I don't know what part she would play in a new role away from FOXNews.

Nt

J/k Stinky, of course the "news" is propaganda of for and by the corporations.

A big effort I'm undertaking this year is finding true news stories/ journalists/ publications.

I'm liking ProPublica so far as one outlet.

but she does come with some news I have not seen elsewhere. A long, and i thought enlightening piece about Putin. the indonesian corruption, just saw that this morning.

Josh Marshall is a serious journalist and his blogsite/news roundup is always insightful.

But still, everyone knows the problem is the "liberal media"!

Except that it's not.

There is very little news on non-cable news channels. The people that watch tend to skew older judging by who advertises during the national nightly news shows. After about 5 to ten snippets of editorialized sound bites and tragedies of the day the rest is infotainment type banter. I do not watch it, but occasionally hear the "reporting" when my husband has it on. I do not have cable tv at home, but when I do see it, there it does not seem much better. Seems a lot of preaching to the choir for both sides depending on station/anchor/moderator and stupid equivalencies instead of reporting non-debatable facts is now the norm. My nearly 20 year old son and his friends never watch tv. If his friends are engaged in news at all, they get it from the internet. Depending on what sites and privacy setting you use, the "news" you get on the web can continue to be skewed, or worse yet, completely false. This is very concerning for the future

In total day, CNN’s median viewer age was 61 compared to 67 for Fox. But in primetime the difference was starker; CNN’s average was 59 while Fox News averaged 68.

MSNBC ranked second in both categories with a median age of 63 during the day and in primetime.

The advertiser-coveted demo is 25-54, leaving CNN’s audience closest to that segment.


http://www.thewrap.com/fox-news-oldest-tv-news-audience-cnn-youngest-in-2015/

Appears to me that they want to attract Trumpsters. I guess they know that progressives hold them largely responsible for the mess we're in and have walked away from their propaganda.

For now, I am done with MSM snooze.

I've not watched since Maddow gave Bill Clinton a thumbs down because he brought up when he met Hillary and how she turned him down at first etc. Bill was trying to humanize Hillary - that's all and Maddow had a hissy. I was done with her after that. I thought to myself, "Whose side are you on?"

I don't even watch Lawrence anymore. They have all become irrelevant to what's going on in the political world - except Joy Reid who is just phenomenal. She is so smart and so on point, doesn't spin, doesn't sugar-coat - just tells it like it is. I also like the fact that she doesn't let her right-wing guests get away with saying crazy stuff.

Which is exactly what a 22 year old boy would have called a 22 year old girl IN THAT ERA.

won't torture myself like I did during the Bush years.

We're so fucked

I'm 13 years older, and want some peace in my life. No more MSM "news."

It's hard I like a little news/politics as I am home but I can't do it anymore. Also I saw Carlson on NBC Today morning show this morn with Al Roker and I turned it off. No more!

Did not realize she had actually come over to NBC.

Why? Because it got them ratings. I have turned them off forever. I will check out online sites like TPM.

I am also watching Keith Olbermann's videoblogging partnership with GQ magazine.

We still have a few good print media outlets but the best of the TV news is the "comedy" category: Real Time, John Oliver, Trevor Noah, and Samantha Bee.
The others have all gone soft. Btw, did you hear abut the pop star's technical glitch on NYE? Big news!

It's all propaganda.

To build another fox news.....that I won't watch.

I guess my disillusionment has no boundaries. The hits just keep on coming ...

I think I'm going boycott NBC. Fuck their goddamn Celebrity Apprentice too.

Who didn't see this coming.

Fugg 'em!

than Chuck Todd and Morning Joe.

Don't watch it. I don't know how you can watch that crap. On and on, the same thing over and over again.
puke.

I get why the studios are going right wing nut job - Fox is such a damn moneymaker and that whole if you can't beat them join them (with their own people), and an audience that likes to be spoonfed.

But are there no independent voices left? In this world of social media and internet - print and cable TV matter less and less. The Young Turks pick up some of that - but honestly - are there no serious journalists who are outraged?

Propaganda shills.

Haven't watch tv news since election night and don't plan to start again.

Under what reasoning would anybody think that taking this pic would be appropriate for "news" or even pundit personalities? And we are to take them seriously? Give me a break!

to be used like that shows just how seriously she can be taken.

I am surprised she doesn't have her legs wrapped around his head. She looks like a cat in heat. There's nothing wrong with that, but I don't want it in my face from people they want me to digest news from.

No, I am not joking.


He thinks he is writing a modern-day Hamilton:


http://www.gq.com/story/joe-scarborough-has-big-dreams-trump-musical

Joe is scum, and can't be trusted with interns.

I'm not interested in watching.

We REALLY need to stop this right/left news bubble reality. It's not real. And we could go insane trying to dig for the truth.

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/01/megyn-kellys-facebook-page-goes-berserk-over-nbc-move-youre-a-sell-out-and-a-traitor/

I guess my corporate media blackout will continue indefinitely. The only one I can stomach anymore is Lawrence and his days are probably numbered. Time to boycott advertisers of all of them.

i stopped watching NBC/MSNBC when they hired the syrupy Katie Couric, and even more so after they fired Ann Curry. Her replacement and Matt Liar disgusted me. The MSM has become all about sensationalism. The same goes for ABC - it's getting there.
Kelly, Carlson and VS are all opportunists - whoever writes them the bigger check. I particularly hate the way Kelly flaunted her sexuality and only stood up to Fox' culture of sexism when Carlson hit Ailes with her lawsuit.

And he was their top ratings guy at the time.

Savage was so horrible that he only lasted a couple weeks. I loved Phil Donahue! I used to watch him everyday.

Remember the "Lean Forward" ads on MSNBC? Yeah, that hope that we'd have a network that espoused progressive values is pretty much dead.

Rachel's towing of the company line only served as further proof. When she attacked Bill Clinton's speech at the Democratic National Convention, I wondered whose side she was on.

We really need capital, financing, and sound leadership to help get our own network off the ground.

Ratings must be really bad if they're trying to copy the worst news network ever. This will definitely not help their ratings any. Progressives are not going to watch Fox lite and Fox viewers are not going abandon Fox for NBC. Really stupid move.

Fox News will have to fawn all over him--which means courting a demographic that includes people not attractive to advertisers. I.e. trailer park trash, outlaws, deadbeat dads, biker wannabe's and a bunch of idiots without education or disposable income.

Old school conservatives who actually have the money to buy a Lexus or BMW will turn off Fox in disgust. And so, NBC is gonna court them. Makes no difference to me at this point who is attacking Trump as long as they attack him. He is a clear and present danger to all of us.

Recall that GE and the Pentagon are two heads of the same animal. I expect to see lots of military criticism of Trump. That will align nicely with the New Conservatives.

I'm more concerned about who'll be writing their scripts.

Although weaponizing former Fox news strokers against Fox could be a stroke of genius in the media wars.

I care nothing for any of them.

They can shuffle the deck chairs and occupants as often as they want its still a sinking shitload of garbage.

I don't watch News Organizations that do that.

Haven't watched much anything on their stations since then.