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skip fox

(19,359 posts)
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 02:07 PM Jan 2017

Julian Assange claims he was not given the hacked texts by Russia or any "state party."

If we believe him, then who gave him the leaks?

Could it be someone in the Trump camp?

Could someone like Manafort have received the hacked materiel from Putin and passed it on to Assange?

Is Trump is attacking the messenger (the intelligence community) about the hacking source so that when they discover he provided the leaks to Assange, he can say they are wrong as ever?

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Julian Assange claims he was not given the hacked texts by Russia or any "state party." (Original Post) skip fox Jan 2017 OP
He's desperate to get asylum from Putin n/t underpants Jan 2017 #1
How would he know when his dropbox is anonymous? scscholar Jan 2017 #2
Google "Former British Ambassador Craig Murray". think Jan 2017 #3
I did. charlyvi Jan 2017 #13
Ok. Hope you have a nice day. think Jan 2017 #16
No one said anything about belief. skip fox Jan 2017 #18
Why would anyone believe anything Assange says? MineralMan Jan 2017 #4
"If we believe him" NastyRiffraff Jan 2017 #5
I think the OP's point might be that if it wasn't Russia govt., it could have been pnwmom Jan 2017 #7
Well, Russia is a State and thus not an actual entity. So he's probably playing semantic games. KittyWampus Jan 2017 #6
Putin's poodle said what? bigtree Jan 2017 #8
Is this a pronouncement to fall in line with what Donald trump mfcorey1 Jan 2017 #9
Here's the article. Take it as you will. skip fox Jan 2017 #10
He's lying mcar Jan 2017 #11
Or skip fox Jan 2017 #12
Assange will say whatever serves him etherealtruth Jan 2017 #14
Russia would never give any material directly. Cattledog Jan 2017 #15
No, silly. Boris and Natasha don't report directly to Vlad, so how could they be a "state party"? Hekate Jan 2017 #17
 

scscholar

(2,902 posts)
2. How would he know when his dropbox is anonymous?
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 02:11 PM
Jan 2017

By definition, he can't know this. He doesn't know it based upon simple logic. Logic says he doesn't know. Doesn't know.

charlyvi

(6,537 posts)
13. I did.
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 03:19 PM
Jan 2017

He's a close associate of Assange; he was relieved of his position, and he states that a Dem operative gave him the info because of disgust at the corruption of the Clinton Foundation and the 'tilting of the primary election playing field against Bernie Sanders'.
First, he's a close associate of Assange. This tells me he believes the truth is a malleable commodity that can be used to advance the Wikileaks/Assange agenda. Second, you don't get relieved of an ambassadorship for no reason. Third, no halfway intelligent "Dem operative' would allege the Clinton Foundation was corrupt. It's the most investigated foundation in the history of the planet and nothing was found that would amount to "corruption". But you know that. Lastly, "the tilting of the primary election field against Bernie Sanders" is bullshit. He lost fair and square. Even he admits that.

None of this adds up to the truth. Craig just sounds like another Assange groupie who spews the bullshit he reads on 4chan to protect his dear leader against all the inconvenient facts piling up around him; the main one being his very obvious interference in our election on behalf of Trump. I actually think he did it just to destroy Hillary. The misogynistic prick could care less who our President is, as long as it wasn't Hillary.

But, if you actually believe this bullshit, that's your right.

MineralMan

(146,311 posts)
4. Why would anyone believe anything Assange says?
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 02:19 PM
Jan 2017

I've never been able to figure that out. Have we not yet figured out that he is NOT on our side?

pnwmom

(108,978 posts)
7. I think the OP's point might be that if it wasn't Russia govt., it could have been
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 02:55 PM
Jan 2017

someone other Russian that DT paid to hack.

But Assange has no credibility.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
6. Well, Russia is a State and thus not an actual entity. So he's probably playing semantic games.
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 02:51 PM
Jan 2017

Funny how he never releases anything damaging to Russia.

mfcorey1

(11,001 posts)
9. Is this a pronouncement to fall in line with what Donald trump
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 03:01 PM
Jan 2017

supposedly will announce? I smell a rat!

skip fox

(19,359 posts)
10. Here's the article. Take it as you will.
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 03:06 PM
Jan 2017

I was brainstorming on the basis of this. Not that it's true, but waswondering what it might imply if it was true. And the implications are profound.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/01/03/assange-russian-government-not-source-wikileaks-emails.html

skip fox

(19,359 posts)
12. Or
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 03:13 PM
Jan 2017

he may be chuckling to himself about how he is playing with the treasonous truth.

He may be signalling to Donald that unless he is is give political asylum in the US, he could spill the beans.

(Just speculating . . .)

Cattledog

(5,914 posts)
15. Russia would never give any material directly.
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 03:22 PM
Jan 2017

That would be foolish and amateurish. They launder it through 3rd parties always. This is "covering your tracks". Plus I doubt Putin/KGB trusts J.A. They use him as needed.

Hekate

(90,690 posts)
17. No, silly. Boris and Natasha don't report directly to Vlad, so how could they be a "state party"?
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 03:44 PM
Jan 2017

ASSange is just another tool, and a malicious one at that.

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